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Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:18 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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A mannequin could recruit LSU football.
The school recruits itself.
Dan is wrong- Miles can't do either.
Wrong answer...the man can recruit at an extremely high level. You have to give credit where it is due regardless of how you feel about his coaching prowess.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:18 am to SportsGuyNOLA
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A mannequin could recruit LSU football.
The school recruits itself.
this has been proven to be false by a number of more high profile schools than LSU
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:19 am to I20goon
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It took the Honey Badger and a spectacular defense for 2011 to happen.
So Miles gets no credit for having a spectacular defense? Yes Miles recruited (one of the very few to even offer TM7) and coached what may go down as one of the greatest defenses in the history of LSU. Yet some fans view that as a negative? I don't get it. But that team wasn't all defense. That team averaged 35.7 ppg and 355.1 yards of offense. Funny how people want to give Miles all of the blame but none of the credit for anything. Somebody who leads a team to a NC and a 13-0 season in the SEC CAN coach. F Dan Patrick, national media's version of Finebaum in my view.
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 10:21 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:19 am to lsugrad35
quote:yet our D is loaded with out of state talent. Louisiana talent hasn't always pulled its weight on our roster lately.
Keep Louisiana kids in state and you're pretty loaded with talent consistently
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:19 am to Howyouluhdat
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He's coached what like 9 years total in college
Miles had a championship within 9 years
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:21 am to SportsGuyNOLA
As long as an LSU HC coach has himself or assistants with good contacts in NOLA & North LA, there's absolutely no reason to not have a very good recruiting class every year.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:23 am to Salmon
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A&M, Florida, Auburn...all of these teams have comparable talent to LSU and Miles has had plenty of success against them
No they don't. UF has been down since Urban left. Aubie never recuits as well as LSU ever. Well I don't have to explain A&M
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:24 am to I20goon
I'm actually optimistic that Miles might prove people wrong this season. Etling allows this team to play complimentary football. As, the season progresses, etling is going to develop better timing with his receivers, and the offense will become more dangerous. How many defensive coordinators over the last 2 years have had to prepare for a fournette who catches 4 passes in a game? That's steele's dilemma for this week. Miles might be the coach of a very good football team come mid season.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:25 am to TBoy@LSU
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So Miles gets no credit for having a spectacular defense? Yes Miles recruited (one of the very few to even offer TM7) and coached what may go down as one of the greatest defenses in the history of LSU. Yet some fans view that as a negative? I don't get it. But that team wasn't all defense. That team averaged 35.7 ppg and 355.1 yards fense. Funny how people want to give Miles all of the blame but none of the credit for anything. Somebody who leads a team to a NC and a 13-0 season CAN coach. F Dan Patrick, national media's version of Finebaum in my view.
Miles has always been able to get his team to play his style of football at a reasonably high level. The problem is that EVERYONE has caught up and passed him.
In addition, once his system is not successful, the man is ill equipped to morph his approach to the current conditions from season to season, week to week, or half to half.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:26 am to Howyouluhdat
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No they don't. UF has been down since Urban left. Aubie never recuits as well as LSU ever. Well I don't have to explain A&M
Muschamp recruited at a high level and Auburn usually has top 10 or 15 classes
I consider top 15 classes to be comparable talent
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:26 am to Geaux BTR
well duh ! 
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:26 am to Lakeboy7
Patrick doesn't understand what it takes to run a program. Les isn't the greatest game manager, but runs a solid program. Coaching is more than x-o.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:27 am to Tigerdev
you're comparing Miles' 11 year career at LSU, in which he came in to a machine that was already rolling, to Harbaugh taking over Standford and turning them around.....and his 1 year and 3 games at Michigan, that was dead for a decade? C'mon man. I was the strongest of Miles supporters in his first 7 years, and even held out hope after 2011, but Harbaugh right now would probably hurt Miles' feelings with that Michigan team that he's just starting to build. The man can coach. Not even addressing his pro stint.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:28 am to El Campo Tiger
Well it fits the narrative and explains why unlike Harbaugh and Saban, the side of the ball that Miles runs has been downright mediocre to bad for the majority of his time here since 2008, while the defense on the other hand has been mostly successful.
Miles is not good at all at game management and X's and O's, but he can recruit and usually can motivate. Those were his strengths.
Sadly, when you miss on hires or try to meddle in things you just aren't good at, this is what happens.
Guy was an NFL TE coach, but has yet to have a TE do anything in the NFL from LSU and the position has been mediocre under him in the last 8-9 years.
Guy is a former OL and OC, yet those parts of the team struggle consistently although they show flashes.
Miles is not good at all at game management and X's and O's, but he can recruit and usually can motivate. Those were his strengths.
Sadly, when you miss on hires or try to meddle in things you just aren't good at, this is what happens.
Guy was an NFL TE coach, but has yet to have a TE do anything in the NFL from LSU and the position has been mediocre under him in the last 8-9 years.
Guy is a former OL and OC, yet those parts of the team struggle consistently although they show flashes.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:29 am to Tigerdev
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Exactly. Just what has Harbaugh actually done?
He made Stanford relevant nationally. First 11 win season in Stanford history, finished 4th in BCS, upset then #1 USC while being about a 40 point dog a year or two before that. And in one year @ Mich got them 10 wins after going 5-7 the year before.
He obviously coaches up unlike Miles. And he doesn't quit.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:30 am to Salmon
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I'll agree to an extent
but there have been plenty of coaches they have recruited at a high level that couldn't coach, like Zook and Muschamp, and they did not last as long as Miles
if Miles truly couldn't coach, he wouldn't have had the longevity that he has had because it normally catches up with them really quick
Miles isn't horrid, he's just not good. And those guys you named made the jump from coordinator to HC. The difference is that in both of their cases, they had legit defenses (their areas of expertise) and their offenses were mediocre. Miles teams aren't successful on the offensive side of the ball (his area of expertise) for the majority of the past 8 years, so that is the difference.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:31 am to Salmon
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Miles had a championship within 9 years
If not for the most epic collapse in college football history than yes you are correct. Harbaugh would dominate at LSU. Lets not compare his tenures @ Stanford to what LSU provides. He dominated at San Diego State and soon to be Michigan. You can defend Leslie all you want but Harbaugh is a superior coach
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:32 am to El Campo Tiger
He's not wrong. That said, I cringe any time Dan talks about college football. It's just nowhere near his wheelhouse.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:32 am to Choctaw
Miles has been on a down turn and maybe he's ready to retire. Maybe the gsme has passed him by a little. But Dan Patrick is an idiot for saying that. Miles in his prime was one of the toughest coaches to deal with. He handled himself well vs some or the best coaches and his record against them is good. Except for the last 4 years vs bama. Miles has his blunders but all coaches do.
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