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Nick Saban and "the process"
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:58 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 6:58 am
Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?
Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
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Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:00 am to Powerman
I can tell you as a lifelong salesperson that some people have better processes than others and some people pretend to have processes but very few truly believe in and are disciplined in there adherence to a process
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:08 am to Powerman
NS's process is his process. And I am sure he developed this from some of the great coaches he has been around that were his mentors. He is a hard worker and pays attention to the details. The smallest of details does not pass him by. He also has a sense of urgency. Put those two things together and I bet only a small % of Americans master both of them well. That is what separates the Sabans and the Urbs of the world from the Lesticles of the world.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:13 am to Powerman
Saban is meticulous about every aspect of it, though. It is as though he doesn't care about he results at all. I think he is on the spectrum with Asperger's or something, and that isn't an insult. A lot of highly successful people are. He is obsessed and that sets him apart.
He can win a national championship and force himself to smile while thinking about recruiting at the post-game press conference. It is insane. He is a coaching robot.
Lots of coaches have a process. His is extreme and it works. I'm no fan of Saban, but you have to respect what the man does.
He can win a national championship and force himself to smile while thinking about recruiting at the post-game press conference. It is insane. He is a coaching robot.
Lots of coaches have a process. His is extreme and it works. I'm no fan of Saban, but you have to respect what the man does.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:14 am to Powerman
quote:It's just you.
Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?
quote:They might. But I believe that he sticks to his more than any other coach in college football. A big part of "the process" is actually sticking to it every single day.
Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:20 am to Powerman
If every other coach is doing it, they suck at it. Nick Saban's resume speaks for itself. He can call his system whatever he wants
This post was edited on 9/21/16 at 7:24 am
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:30 am to Powerman
No process accounts for effort, motivation, and leadership. I can create a process on paper. Those intangibles come from a person's character.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:45 am to Powerman
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Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach
I don't think that is true, some coaches are much more broad overview types have multiple processes implemented by their coordinators on a skeleton framework the HC identifies.
Also, a process is like a plan, everybody has one until they get punched in the face (to paraphrase Mike Tyson). The real difference is that OCD midget at Alabama still has the same plan after. As much as I despise that little SOB, I gotta respect him as a coach.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:46 am to Powerman
Couldn't you post this Bama circle jerk thread on the sec rant
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:49 am to Powerman
quote:
Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?
Uhhhh, no. It's a thing. Miles plays for "victory" only and says so.
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Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach.
Every coach has a system, but not necessarily a process. System being a way to attain a goal(s). Process being achieving your goal(s) perfectly. BIG difference.
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The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
He may not be the only one now, but he was emphatically the leader of it in college football years ago.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 7:59 am to Powerman
Saban has every tiny detail of the program fine-tuned to increase his team's chance to win on the field. Every move is thought out, planned, practiced, and executed. From play-calling on Saturdays all the way down to eating Little Debbies snack cakes for breakfast.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:10 am to Powerman
Some coaches allow various assistants to tweak their "process". With Saban it is his way or the highway with very little deviation. One of the reasons he is so successful is that he has absolute control of every detail no matter who his assistants are.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:54 am to Powerman
quote:Wait, who has said he's the only coach to have a process?
Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd
Every coach in America has a process. Saban's process is just clearly better than everyone else's.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 8:56 am to Powerman
Saban said he doesn't text at all. Anyone buy that?
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:03 am to Powerman
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Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?
I don't think it is made up. There is a reason Saban and Belechick are the best.
That is why our (LSU) fans drive me nuts at times. Nobody beats Saban with any consistency.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:09 am to Powerman
Nick Saban's process is how he develops players. He expects his individual players to execute as they are taught with the process. The next step in the process is to coordinate the individual activities into the schemes he wants to use. Getting everyone synchronized. Saban's process is damn effective, but it is not perfect since the schemes may not always work.
One thing Saban is not given enough credit for is recognizing when his schemes have flaws, and I think the process helps him do this. When he recognizes flaws in his schemes he makes corrective changes to his schemes. I think this is the aspect of the process that is overlooked, and it is why he seems to stay one step ahead of the opposition.
One thing Saban is not given enough credit for is recognizing when his schemes have flaws, and I think the process helps him do this. When he recognizes flaws in his schemes he makes corrective changes to his schemes. I think this is the aspect of the process that is overlooked, and it is why he seems to stay one step ahead of the opposition.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 9:58 am to Powerman
quote:not at all made up, IMO. it sounds like bullshite from the outside, but the results speak for themselves.
Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?
Almost every coach in football is a process oriented coach. The idea that Saban is the only one that is doing this or who has ever done this is absurd.
i think with saban, it's about the attention to detail, leaving no stones unturned. and if you spot any, how do you address it? how does one address roster turnover and recruiting needs? they do it better than anyone else.
sure, every coach in the profession has a process, some are stronger than others, and a few select ones are ironclad. saban's just happens to be the best one.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:05 am to Powerman
What "The Process" is, it starts and ends with his ability to recruit elite talent.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:31 am to Powerman
Pretty funny seeing everyone talk in circles over a word. Every coach has a process. Saban's process is great because he's great and nobody here is ever going to be able to define it.
Posted on 9/21/16 at 10:35 am to Powerman
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Is it just me or this whole thing completely made up?
I don't think so. I think what it means is that he understands the impact of luck, and thus places extreme value on making good decisions - i.e. having high quality "inputs", as the output is going to be subject to the effects of luck.
This is to be contrasted with Miles (at least back in the "Mad Hatter" days) when he was always shooting from the hip and doing cowboy type of stuff. Sure, you might have luck coincide with those particular decisions and get some good results (despite poor decision-making.) But, as they say - when the tide goes out, you find out who is actually wearing a bikini.
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