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Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:01 am to 504ByrdGang
If your mother is an NP then she is a highly educated woman. Why don't you discuss some of this stuff with her. If she's anything like my mother, she would probably slap the shite out of you.
I can promise that she doesn't enjoy the idea of welfare leeches anymore than the OT does.
I can promise that she doesn't enjoy the idea of welfare leeches anymore than the OT does.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:04 am to CoachDon
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Is it not true that African civilization has been around even longer than European civilization? And is it not also true that Africa is even more resource rich than Europe? Then why is it that by the 1400's European civilization had advanced centuries ahead of African civilization to the point the Europeans were able to impose their will on African civilization?
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Good talking point.
Is anything I said untrue? If so, please explain.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:04 am to terd ferguson
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I know I do!
A bridge too far, tf. You got carried away
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:05 am to Darth_Vader
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Why not? Is it not true that African civilization has been around even longer than European civilization? And is it not also true that Africa is even more resource rich than Europe? Then why is it that by the 1400's European civilization had advanced centuries ahead of African civilization to the point the Europeans were able to impose their will on African civilization?
No one knows, My only theory is different cultures values different things.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:07 am to baseballmind1212
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If your mother is an NP then she is a highly educated woman. Why don't you discuss some of this stuff with her. If she's anything like my mother, she would probably slap the shite out of you.
She's says it all the time how its wrong how she pays so much for insurance while others get the same care for free.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:08 am to 504ByrdGang
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No one knows
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My only theory is different cultures values different things.
Wrong. Read "Guns, Germs and Steel" by Jared Diamond
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:10 am to trom83
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Baltimore Bloc is among more than 50 organizations that developed the platform over the past year...
The agenda calls for an end to the death penalty, decriminalization of drug-related offenses and prostitution, and the "demilitarization" of police departments.
Designate a Hamsterdam, build a wall around it, and I'd go along with that part. Trump, are you listening?
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:12 am to 504ByrdGang
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She's says it all the time how its wrong how she pays so much for insurance while others get the same care for free.
Your mother is a smart woman. You should listen to her. When the haves have to foot the bill for the have nots who will never - society starts crumbling.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:12 am to fr33manator
When I saw this story this morning, I was like WTF? Didn't they get 40 acres and a mull back in the day?
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:14 am to 504ByrdGang
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No one knows, My only theory is different cultures values different things.
Let's assume you are correct. If a culture has values that lead to the state of Africa that it is in today, I'd suggest some reorientation of values is long overdue.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:15 am to 504ByrdGang
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No one knows, My only theory is different cultures values different things.
Actually, anyone with a working knowledge of social contract theory can understand that European civilizations succeeded largely due to an understanding of stewardship of land and progressive economic principles. African civilizations didn't (and still don't--see the oil wars in Nigeria) because of a lack of civil government and authority control.
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:20 am to 504ByrdGang
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No one knows, My only theory is different cultures values different things.
Are you saying that African civilizations value different things than European civilization? If so, how do you come to that conclusion? Just as European history is the story of different European peoples warring and trying to impose their will on other European people, likewise is the story of Africa. African sub-groups do just as European sub-groups do, namely they war with and try to overtake their neighbors in order to advance their own group's civilization. In fact, African sub-groups have done this longer than their European counterparts and continue to do it even today.
That being the case, why is it that the tools and implements developed by Africans to wage war and/or expand their own reach and power is still basically Iron (or even stone) Age technology even today?
It's not that they "value different things" as you say because history shows us clearly Africans have the same motivations and desires as their European counterparts. Thus, my original question still stands. How did the Europeans get so far ahead?
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:26 am to Darth_Vader
Real answer: They developed superior weapons at the ideal time to conquer further than humans had ever been able to attempt before.
Had the Mongols begun their conquests from a more western start point, Europe (and likely most of NW/Central Africa) would have been decimated. Those fools didn't play.
All comes down to timing.
Had the Mongols begun their conquests from a more western start point, Europe (and likely most of NW/Central Africa) would have been decimated. Those fools didn't play.
All comes down to timing.
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:27 am to PoundFoolish
Couldn't disagree with the Africa bashers more. I've been to South Africa and it was lovely
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Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:27 am to Darth_Vader
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How did Western Europeans get so far ahead?
FIFY
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:28 am to trom83
That price has already been paid by the shedding of blood.
Those that believe this to be a fine idea, pony up their assets/estates...I've paid more than enough thru social welfare initiatives
When those who sold their own countrymen into slavery are billed first, then the shipping parties second, then the traders of such third, then the owners of slaves fourth, then and only then bring this bad idea before the American people
Those that believe this to be a fine idea, pony up their assets/estates...I've paid more than enough thru social welfare initiatives
When those who sold their own countrymen into slavery are billed first, then the shipping parties second, then the traders of such third, then the owners of slaves fourth, then and only then bring this bad idea before the American people
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:29 am to TbirdSpur2010
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Had the Mongols begun their conquests from a more western start point, Europe (and likely most of NW/Central Africa) would have been decimated. Those fools didn't play.
Yup. Have you listened to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast "Wrath of the Khans"?
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:31 am to fr33manator
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Have you listened to Dan Carlin's Hardcore History podcast "Wrath of the Khans"?
Just last month, actually. Terrific series
Finished Blueprint for Armageddon recently--working in Kings of Kings now. Great podcast to listen to at work.
Posted on 8/2/16 at 10:33 am to TbirdSpur2010
Most definitely. BfA is probably my favorite all time podcast. I've listened to it in its entirety about 4 times now.
You should check out either Ghosts of the Ostfront or Punic Nightmare next
You should check out either Ghosts of the Ostfront or Punic Nightmare next
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