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Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:52 am to upgrayedd
I actually think I saw where the stock went up after those stories broke yesterday. I guess as uncertainty fades, people are more willing to buy the stock.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 10:53 am to KG6
Really?
Figured taking a multi billion dollar hit would have a negative effect
Figured taking a multi billion dollar hit would have a negative effect
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:00 am to upgrayedd
Shoulda bought the day of the scandal announcement. It won't divebomb that much again unless this goes ultra shitty.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:03 am to VetteGuy
Wait, so the feds are forcing people to get them fixed? frick that, I'll take the better mpg over a car that only pollutes 0.0002ppm NOx/SOx instead of one that pollutes 0.0001ppm.
I saw a Jetta in town the other day with a 102" whip on it opposite side of the gas filler neck. It was pretty funny
I saw a Jetta in town the other day with a 102" whip on it opposite side of the gas filler neck. It was pretty funny
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:07 am to torrey225
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It isn't going to pollute a lot after the fix. It will just have crappy MPG which is the reason why a person would pay extra for the diesel model of the vehicle.
No, I understand that. I doubt the fix impacts the MPG more than 5%, overall.
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This diesel scandal has literally dropped the value of my gasoline VW Passat.
Not surprising, given how the buying public thinks. I think if you sit tight it will revive.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:17 am to VetteGuy
Well it could THEORETICALLY improve it. Upfitting my car with SCR would probably improve it slightly by cutting down on EGR a lot. Even with the cheat, the car is doing lots of emissions controlling. It's not like it's belching black smoke and NOx all over the place.
Of course, that isn't cost effective and won't happen. With the way my car is configured, meeting NOx requirements without aftertreatment means lots of EGR.
Of course, that isn't cost effective and won't happen. With the way my car is configured, meeting NOx requirements without aftertreatment means lots of EGR.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:19 am to Hammertime
This isn't like cutting the DPF off a diesel truck that left the lot compliant, although those guys' turn is coming.
This is already a big blip on EPA's radar and they will force those cars either into compliance or off the road. Those are the only two options.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:20 am to KG6
Yep, people see it as a resolution.
Long term, this hurts VW for awhile. Buyers ( consumers) will be a bit skeptical of the brand.
Long term, this hurts VW for awhile. Buyers ( consumers) will be a bit skeptical of the brand.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:26 am to VetteGuy
My 2012 Passat has 220k miles, it will be interesting to see how this plays out.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:42 am to wickowick
Is there after market software that can reset it to its original cheating self? Taking a payment then putting that software back on it after the fix seems like it would be business as usual.
My only hesitation in keeping the car would be that the fix would damage the car long term or could. I like the car, I like the gas mileage. I would need some real incentives to change cars from a paid off car to a new car. I have a 2012 passat and I probably have less than 80k miles on it.
My only hesitation in keeping the car would be that the fix would damage the car long term or could. I like the car, I like the gas mileage. I would need some real incentives to change cars from a paid off car to a new car. I have a 2012 passat and I probably have less than 80k miles on it.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 11:58 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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DownshiftAndFloorIt
You seem to be well versed in current diesel offerings and here's as good a place as any to ask. I've been looking at other options. I always had a truck or big SUV before I started driving this TDI. The idea of the Colorado diesels is interesting. Get's me a truck bed again (which isn't necessary, but nice to have) and still offers 31 mpg. My issue is, the 4 cylinder gas option gets like 27 mpg and is much cheaper. Are they just marketing the diesel due to the increase tow capacity? As if anyone is buying a Colorado for towing? Are these trucks getting better than advertised mileage like my Jetta is (I average around 42 both city and highway combined)? I don't know if 27 or 31 mpg highway is enough for my 65 mile per day commute, but it's making my short list if this buy back does go into effect. I just can't find many cars that I want to drive for under 35k.
I realize I'm jumping the gun on this stuff, but I'm bored at work today, and it usually takes me months of research and back and forth before I ever make a purchase anyway, so just as soon get started
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:07 pm to KG6
Limitations on small trucks' towing capacity are their weight, suspension, and brakes. It's easy to build an engine that can pull anything, but can the truck handle it?
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:09 pm to Golfer
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, but the issue still remains if I'll even be able to resell.
There has to be stories of people reselling a TDI since this news broke.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:13 pm to Hammertime
That's why I'm questioning it. I have always thought it would be a good idea, but for a measly 4 mpg increase? The towing capacity is much higher than the gas option, but I'd never expect to tow more than a light trailer anyway. I had a single cab, short bed, V8 Silverado in college. It had the engine to pull stuff, but the short wheel base made it a bit squirley to haul anything heavy. So if the only benefit is really towing, I can't see how those things will sell well when they come in damn near 40k brand new.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:24 pm to KG6
Honestly, the towing capacity shouldn't be any higher IMHO. Engines aren't the limiting factor in any truck's towing capacity. It has 490 lbs more on the front end with the diesel, so that's probably why they rate it differently. If your trailer is balanced properly, it shouldn't be significant. Just think of the stuff non-turbo diesel 1-tons used to tow 20 years ago. It's pretty much the same stuff as now, just not as fast.
You've got to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze. For most people, mpg savings don't cover increased purchase price costs until you keep it for longer than like 5 years. Idk the prices on them though.
You've got to decide if the juice is worth the squeeze. For most people, mpg savings don't cover increased purchase price costs until you keep it for longer than like 5 years. Idk the prices on them though.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:32 pm to Cypdog
Likely. Check out Malone Tuning or APR. They have tunes for the engine and trans that really wake up these cars for about $1,000. Its a popular option when the expensive pollution components shite the bed plus it improves the mpg. However, there will be some visable smoke at times.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:35 pm to KG6
I personally don't think any of the 1/2 ton and smaller diesels on the market are worth the Preimum you pay for them. If I was going to spend $40k on a vehicle it would not be on a diesel truck unless it was a 3/4 ton.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:42 pm to pjab
Those modifications are not road legal. People do it and get away with it, but that will come to an end.
Posted on 4/21/16 at 12:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Off-road waiver on a Jetta
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