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Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:31 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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but it's not like you get better than you were before
you don't think having more energy and higher focus makes you better than lower energy and lesser focus?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
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you don't think having more energy and higher focus makes you better than lower energy and lesser focus?
you're talking about negligible results in comparison to steroids
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:43 pm to Lester Earl
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you don't think having more energy and higher focus makes you better than lower energy and lesser focus? you're talking about negligible results in comparison to steroids
Exactly, but Mr. 300,000 wants to argue otherwise.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:47 pm to VaBamaMan
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especially since most of the usage was to overcome injuries
you need to google anabolic steroids
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:52 pm to Lester Earl
Barry was on that HGH, which definitely helps with recovery/injuries.
I personally am glad he took PEDs; it was absolutely incredible watching him.
I personally am glad he took PEDs; it was absolutely incredible watching him.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:55 pm to FightinTigersDammit
quote:You think steroids and PEDs weren't going in in the 60s?
Not even CLOSE to what was going on in the 90s. False equivalency.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 6:59 pm to shel311
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You think steroids and PEDs weren't going in in the 60s?
You think the levels of usage compare to the 90s? I'm sure there may have been some, but come on.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:01 pm to Parallax
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Barry was on that HGH
and anabolic steroids
Posted on 3/16/16 at 7:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
There were some that questioned Griffey on something.
Completely tearing muscle off bones his body shift like Bonds and his rampant injury rate later.
Completely tearing muscle off bones his body shift like Bonds and his rampant injury rate later.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:23 pm to VermilionTiger
Agreed
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:26 pm to VaBamaMan
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the day I walked into the 9th grade I was 5-9 225 and benched 275
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
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did not take care of his body at all. that's why he broke down
In Jr's defense, his playing style didn't help to snowball this. He dove into walls full speed.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:48 pm to msudawg1200
quote:The 4 or 5 seasons starting with the 73 HR season, not sure why anyone woulda ever want that to not have happened.
Man, I wish Bonds hadn't got tied in to that. He was the best player I've ever seen with or without roids.
He was must see TV almost every night, it was amazing. We haven't seen anything like it since...or in 50 or 70 years before it.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 10:50 pm to Lester Earl
quote:How do we explain Aaaron's HR rate at some of its highest levels at 38+?
you're talking about negligible results in comparison to steroids
Anytime an MLB player does that this day in age or in the past 20 or so seasons, we immediately question him virtually every time.
Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:23 pm to shel311
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How do we explain Aaaron's HR rate at some of its highest levels at 38+?
what do you suspect?
Posted on 3/16/16 at 11:48 pm to sms151t
What? No one questioned Griffey. And his body ballooned because he flat out got fat. It was widely known Griffey never worked out. He got by on genetics for the first half of his career but his injuries and weight gain were caused by him not taking proper care of his body as an athlete.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 12:15 am to VermilionTiger
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He's the greatest baseball player ever, and no one can tell me any different.
was premier before he injured his hamstring running when he was still very good with SF. after that he juiced to heal the hamstring. .373 and 73 came after the hamstring.
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:02 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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(shallow left)
Willie Mays says hello from deep centerfield.
Seriously? Look where Bream is by the time Bonds gets the ball. And why the frick are using one defensive play as your argument?
Posted on 3/17/16 at 8:54 am to shel311
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How do we explain Aaaron's HR rate at some of its highest levels at 38+?
How do we explain Aaron hitting all those HRs at 5'11", 185?
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