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re: 'Clueless' actress Stacey Dash calls for end to Black History month and BET

Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by LSU_Saints_Hornets
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:16 pm to
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If the Caucasian community started White Entertainment Television, and had WET awards where the vast majority of awards went to white people that espoused white values.


I mean if this wasn't already the case why is BET still thriving. Every show on TV caters to the white race. I mean I understand it but let's not act like BET came about because blacks didn't want to be associated with the white networks. MTV wouldn't even play black music videos. This is what birth BET.


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they would throw one to a black person like Stacey Dash


She is a hypocrite after clues her career went down the toilet. The only way she paid her bills were by posing in black magazines and staring in black music videos and acting on black tv shows that aired on BET. So she can stop putting on this facade.
Posted by DownSouthCrawfish
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:17 pm to
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If the Caucasian community started White Entertainment Television, a
aka Country Music Television
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:18 pm to
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Every show on TV caters to the white race.

Probably the most racist thing I've seen posted on this site in a while, if ever.
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I mean I understand it but let's not act like BET came about because blacks didn't want to be associated with the white networks. MTV wouldn't even play black music videos. This is what birth BET.


You haven't answered my question.
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She is a hypocrite after clues her career went down the toilet. The only way she paid her bills were by posing in black magazines and staring in black music videos and acting on black tv shows that aired on BET. So she can stop putting on this facade.


You still haven't answered my question, and almost seems like you're purposely avoiding it.

Posted by sugar71
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:19 pm to
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Clueless


Was that 1992 or so?


The right wing really likes to dig up minorities who agree with their politics.

Good money to be made by prominent Blacks from this demographic says Hermain Cain , Ben Carson, Dash ,etc.......
This post was edited on 1/21/16 at 1:39 pm
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:21 pm to
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aka Country Music Television


No, not Country. Literally, White (people) Entertainment. Put the race in the name. Specified it to a color of a person's skin, not just to a genre.

They're 2 completely different things. And that's my point, people are ignoring that, and trying to make irrelevant comparisons and points. Why won't they address the race issue?

Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:23 pm to
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And that's my point, people are ignoring that, and trying to make irrelevant comparisons and points. Why won't they address the race issue?


What needs to be addressed? Who really has an issue with BET being black entertainment television?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:23 pm to
So really people are just asking for a new name?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:27 pm to
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Who really has an issue with BET being black entertainment television?


no one really

I think point Festus is trying to make though is who would have an issue if we had White Entertainment Television?

Not something that you claim is catered to whites, but something that specifically calls out race (white) in its name.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:29 pm to
Why won't any of you answer the question? Would you, and black leaders, support a White People network that espoused white value, run by white people? Would you, Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett, Al Sharpton, etc. vocally support this network as strongly as BET? Why or why not?
Posted by SthGADawg
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:29 pm to
"baw"...is really gay as frick...

she may have her facts mixed up, talking in absolutes with regards to winners and nominees being of a certain race, but she is not wrong in the fact that there is an "I'll have my cake and eat it too" attitude with regards to integration and equality from some involved...if things were reversed in some situations...there would be riots and unrest...all I'm saying


Posted by RedRifle
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
But what does that have to do with a private business? BET is no different than a Chinese, Indian or Thai restaurant. It provides a certain content and consumers pay for it. Don't like it don't watch it. I hate when so called "free marketers" don't understand the basic tenets of free market.
Posted by Meatball
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
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Festus


You aren't going to get a straight answer from anyone.
Posted by Pepe Lepew
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:30 pm to
I can like this blackness !!!!
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:32 pm to
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You aren't going to get a straight answer from anyone.

I'm getting that vibe.

But why won't I get one?
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:32 pm to
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she may have her facts mixed up, talking in absolutes with regards to winners and nominees being of a certain race, but she is not wrong in the fact that there is an "I'll have my cake and eat it too" attitude with regards to integration and equality from some involved...if things were reversed in some situations...there would be riots and unrest...all I'm saying



Then maybe she should have chosen much better examples that BHM and BET.
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"baw"...is really gay as frick...



You sound butthurt.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:32 pm to
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Do people have a problem with Spike? Lifetime?


People would have an issue with a network named White Entertainment TV even if the intent was just to provide entertainment that the white demographic would enjoy but all the while allowing anyone to watch. The name just makes it seem exclusive even tho it's not.

That being said, Dash made a poor comparison. A better analogy would be boycotting the Miss America pageant for not having enough non white contestants but also having a Black Miss America pageant.
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:35 pm to
As far as BET goes. I don't care if it's on or off air. But I do think it's stupid when people focus on it's award shows and make it sound like it's "Black only". When it clearly isn't.

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Would you, and black leaders, support a White People network that espoused white value, run by white people? Would you, Spike Lee, Jada Pinkett, Al Sharpton, etc. vocally support this network as strongly as BET?
Doesn't bother me. If someone wants to create WET. Go for it.

Also, I've stated my opinion on why Jada Pinkett Smith is involved in this situation. It has more to do with Will not being nominated than race imho.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:36 pm to
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Doesn't bother me. If someone wants to create WET. Go for it.


well we know you aren't really black so you don't count
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96255 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:39 pm to
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Probably the most racist thing I've seen posted on this site in a while, if ever.
I am a white person who hates the race card more than anyone, but he was absolutely right. TV for the most part is almost exclusively for white people. White sitcoms off the top of my head:

Cheers
Seinfeld
Friends
Mash
Modern Family
Malcolm in the Middle
Saved by the bell
Goldbergs
etc etc



Black ones:

Cosby show
Blackish
Jeffersons
Posted by SthGADawg
Member since Nov 2007
7035 posts
Posted on 1/21/16 at 1:39 pm to
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You sound butthurt.


not me...im good...her examples were poor with regards to BET....but BHM...why do we need a month dedicated to it...put all those brave individuals that are focused on in FEB in the history books and study them as you do any other social studies topic...
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