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re: LSU Basketball, patience is a virtue people
Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:15 pm to CaliTigerForLife
Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:15 pm to CaliTigerForLife
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adjective allot
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Posted on 1/7/16 at 3:31 pm to Trent
Trent did you watch the last 2 games on D? Also JJ can't shoot free throw for you, and what about Coach Cal, does he suck because of UKs free throws 
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:52 pm to TommyDaTiger
quote:no. this team can beat anybody on the schedule any given night. however, none of lsu's crap play this season is a surprise at all to me. jones sucks. maybe he's transform into a completely different coach.
Kentucky cuts LSUs lead to 4 with 13 minutes in the game, you were miserable saying how we're gonna lose and Jones cannot coach and that we suck again ?
Posted on 1/8/16 at 12:57 pm to CaliTigerForLife
quote:no, it's possible that they play better and still don't make the tourney because they were so bad in dec and because their rpi doesn't go up enough.
If they do continue to turn it around, it'll make the start of the season a moot point
quote:first, you don't know a thing about me. i've been going to lsu bball games since '87. i cheer for the tigers even with jones coaching. sure it would be nice for him to succeed. my point is that he never should have been a candidate because i want lsu bball to succeed and his resume sucked before and still sucks. it's just reality and has nothing to do with what i want. yet, your sanctimonious reply to me is an attempt to paint me as "miserable." i DO NOT complain at games. i don't like to hear others do it so, i don't do it.
The only way that happens is for your miserable little soul to keep hoping LSU doesn't turn it around
quote:you are a strange person. an lsu fan calls out jones fairly and justifiably and you launch into an attack on my home life. just weird.
Your household must be a miserable place to be
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:00 pm to urinetrouble
quote:what is wrong with you people. jones sucks and rational fans are not gaga over these last 2 wins and somehow i'm "miserable" because i don't let small minded people brainwash me into thinking jones is suddenly awesome. the guy has still not won a tourney game. get some perspective people. and what's with the childish personal attacks.
It must suck being such a miserable person
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:02 pm to bfniii
Have another beer Tommy
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:09 pm to Alt26
quote:because they had impressive ooc road wins and sec road wins against tourney teams. this team has already blown one of those and has bad losses that last year's team didn't have at the same point.
Once they beat Arkansas on the road to end the season, we didn't know it at the time but they were in
quote:precisely. the exact reason why the ooc schedule is so damaging at this point
The committee looks at the season as a whole
quote:i haven't disputed this. the question is if there are enough opportunities for good/great wins to offset the ooc schedule. not looking good at this point.
LSU's RPI is going to go up just by virture of playing a SEC schedule the rest of the way
quote:no, they are. absolutely in a huge hole. rpi is still well over 100. not good.
But they are not in the complete dire straits you're making it out to be.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:11 pm to TommyDaTiger
quote:no one is questioning that this week was solid. some people are acting like the ship is righted and lsu is back in the tourney which is stupid.
Downplay it all you want but that's pretty good if you ask me
quote:people who are being realistic and not overly optimistic are not miserable. why is that so hard to understand?
your miserable arse
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:12 pm to CaliTigerForLife
quote:out of all the egregious spelling and grammatical errors in this forum, you point out my minor misuse of ALOT? genius
CaliTigerForLife
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:16 pm to Pnels08
quote:i'm not panicking at all, just stating facts. the rpi is still WAY over 100. people are a little to optimistic that just having an sec patch on the uni is enough to get lsu into the tourney.
Bud, you are panicing too much
as i said before, lsu's only saving grace right now is ben simmons for ratings despite jones' ineptitude.
quote:we do not have "plenty" and there might not even be enough. it's like people have never watched how the selection committee works.
Yea we are in a hole but we have plenty of opportunities to pull ourselves out.
quote:w/l record and w/l record of lsu's opponents also matter. the latter is out of lsu's hands. right now, lsu needs a lot of help.
So if we end up with a top 60 rpi and had to play 30% of the season without 2 of our top 3 players then I think we'll be fine
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:18 pm to bfniii
If rant fans got their way we would fire every coach every year.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:31 pm to bfniii
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we do not have "plenty" and there might not even be enough. it's like people have never watched how the selection committee works.
Win the SEC regular season would diminish all doubt. That probably won't happen but they did beat the two preseason favorites. Also the committee could notice that LSU did not have two starters with those first losses and will judge them by what they did when they were at full strength. I would say that A&M twice, Oklahoma, Kentucky again, USCe, FLorida and conference tourney is plenty of opportunity as long as you take care of business against the rest.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:37 pm to bfniii
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people who are being realistic
Is that what you are? I thought you were only a miserable frick who is so ate up with his hate of a LSU coach you cant even enjoy a win over a #9 team without pissing on the team non-stop.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:43 pm to bfniii
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because they had impressive ooc road wins and sec road wins against tourney teams. this team has already blown one of those and has bad losses that last year's team didn't have at the same point.
The only impressive OOC road win they had at that point was the win over West Virginia (UAB was a surprise NCAAT team because they won their conf. tournament). While LSU has already lost their opportunity to get a good OOC road win this season, they sill have a chance to get a monster win vs. Oklahoma at the end of the month. They also have chances for good SEC road wins: @ A&M, @ UK, @ South Carolina. Plus, if Vandy can pick it up again, that's another nice road win.
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the exact reason why the ooc schedule is so damaging at this point
I don't disagree that the OOC schedule is damaging. I said in the summer shame on Jones for putting together such a weak schedule. It was going to leave them with no margin of error and they ultimately blew through that margin
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no, they are. absolutely in a huge hole. rpi is still well over 100. not good.
No one disputes that Nov/Dec put them in a hole. However, as it stands now, they've got 6 games remaining against teams currently in the RPI top 50 (starting tomorrow with Florida) Most of the SEC is in the RPI top 100 at the moment, and most will stay there. Now that they're in conf. play, watch N. Florida start to shoot up the RPI rankings as well.
Plus, you're forgetting that if LSU continues to play well, the narrative of their season is going to change. Initially they were considered "the most disappointing team in CBB." Mark my words, if they continue to play well the narrative will be "we have to judge LSU on what they did once they got two starters back in the line up"
They're in a hole. Right now, if I had to bet, I'd say they don't make the tournament. That said, there is still opportunity out there
Posted on 1/8/16 at 1:59 pm to redfishfan
i hope that's not directed at me. my point all along has been that jones shouldn't have been a candidate to begin with, not that he should be fired. no one should be surprised that once again, his team is on the verge of not making the tournament. yet, people are celebrating like we just made the final four.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 2:54 pm to LSU Groupee
quote:tell me one thing i posted that's not factual or reasonable.
Is that what you are?
quote:i've got an idea. how about you armchair psychologists leave the middle school insults out of the adult conversation. do you think you're mature enough to accomplish that?
I thought you were only a miserable frick
quote:i do not hate johnny jones one bit. i hope he succeeds. i don't think he's a great coach (his 15 year resume proves he's not) and i want lsu to have a great coach. how in the world does that somehow make me a miserable person? how about you address my actual comments instead of manufacturing straw men.
is so ate up with his hate of a LSU coach
quote:i haven't "pissed" on the team one bit. i have posted lsu's rpi, cited the bad losses and discussed how the committee works. for some reason, you hateful childish people cannot accept that the last 2 wins don't make up for 3 seasons of disappointment.
you cant even enjoy a win over a #9 team without pissing on the team non-stop.
here's what you aren't acknowledging - jones has so lowered the bar that now, lsu is merely hoping to squeak into the tourney instead of at this point, having a respectable rpi which would help get a respectable seed so that lsu could make a respectable run to the sweet 16 or elite 8. right now, lsu should be ecstatic to just be on the bubble. that doesn't bother you?
go look at the top 50 rpi. that's where lsu should be right now. last year, jones so lowered the bar that lsu was happy to be on the bubble and happy to just make an appearance in the tourney. blow a huge late lead against an above average team in embarrassing fashion? oh well, at least we were there. nevermind that lsu had top 2 talent in a power 5 conference.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:05 pm to geauxtigers33
quote:The committee must certainly WILL notice that LSU struggles were without its full roster. Committee members have stated multiple times that they are more lenient to losses that aren't at full strength. If you want to know the truth, our tourney chances came down to these last two games. The whole nation knew we were struggling and that our season was on its last leg coming into conference play. We had two nationally televised games for Ben and company to show that they are the real deal and they most certainly did. This team has turned the corner, and I feel like they have a legit shot at winning the SEC. I know it sounds crazy, but the team we've seen the past two games is definitely top 25 and hell maybe even top 10.
Also the committee could notice that LSU did not have two starters with those first losses and will judge them by what they did when they were at full strength.
This post was edited on 1/8/16 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:07 pm to Alt26
quote:uab was definitely acknowledged as a good road win, even at the time.
The only impressive OOC road win they had at that point was the win over West Virginia
quote:you're underscoring a point i'm making. lsu ONLY has that many games. the better acc, big 10, big 12 teams have that many but, they're not 100+ rpi right now. so, it's a ceteris parabis situation. even if lsu wins all those games, they have more ground to make up. those other teams can lose a few here and there. lsu doesn't have that luxury. the 6 games might not be enough. for some reason, i'm a miserable person for pointing that out.
they've got 6 games remaining against teams currently in the RPI top 50
quote:i'm not forgetting anything. i have already pointed out that if lsu makes it into the tourney, it will largely be because of ben simmons' potential tv ratings factor. i think that will have more weight than the missing starters storyline. lsu might displace a more deserving team just because of simmons and i'd be willing to bet that the rantards in this thread will attribute it to jones' awesomeness.
Plus, you're forgetting that if LSU continues to play well, the narrative of their season is going to change
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:08 pm to bfniii
quote:LSU was far from the bubble on selection Sunday even though everyone had said we wouldn't make it all of last season during our up and down SEC play. And if you watched the NC State game you'd know that coaching isn't what lost that game. Missed free throws and lay ups in the final few moments did
jones so lowered the bar that lsu was happy to be on the bubble and happy to just make an appearance in the tourney. blow a huge late lead against an above average team in embarrassing fashion? oh well, at least we were there. nevermind that lsu had top 2 talent in a power 5 conference.
Posted on 1/8/16 at 3:08 pm to TommyDaTiger
Need Patterson back ASAP
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