re: LSU Basketball, patience is a virtue people

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LSU was far from the bubble on selection Sunday

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i'm not sure where you're getting that info from. it was pins and needles the whole way. lsu was showing up on last 4 lists up to the ark game.

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Missed free throws and lay ups

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this is a case of missing the forest for the trees. if all the other games hadn't happened, you might be right. anyone who had seen the team play the whole season and the prior season wouldn't be fooled into thinking it was an isolated incident of the players choking. you only need to go back one game prior to start to see the obvious. auburn, a&m, tenn, rhode island, on and on and on. now more of the same this season, coc, etc. how many games does it take? his resume at lsu is playing out just like the prior 12 seasons as a head coach - no tourney wins, almost no tourney appearances.

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m not sure where you're getting that info from. it was pins and needles the whole way. lsu was showing up on last 4 lists up to the ark game.

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I love how you leave out the Arky game, and did you watch the selection show? LSU wasn't even talked about as being on the fence.

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the results aren't even close to matching the obvious talent.

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The results do match the talent ever since all the talent started playing they have only lost one game. I don't care how bad Kentucky has been recently. They are still Kentucky and beat Louisville and Duke earlier this year.

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uab was definitely acknowledged as a good road win, even at the time

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Come on now. You're using the benefit of hindsight knowing how UAB finished last season. It was DEFINITELY NOT considered a good road win at the time. When LSU played UAB they were 4-6. After the LSU loss they went on to lose 2 more games and enter conference play 4-9. I don't think anyone would consider a win over a 4-6 Conf. USA team a "good win". LSU was fortunate UAB got hot. That win looked MUCH better at the end of the season than it did earlier. Watch N. Florida this year, it could be the same thing.

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you're underscoring a point i'm making. lsu ONLY has that many games. the better acc, big 10, big 12 teams have that many but, they're not 100+ rpi right now. so, it's a ceteris parabis situation. even if lsu wins all those games, they have more ground to make up. those other teams can lose a few here and there. lsu doesn't have that luxury. the 6 games might not be enough. for some reason, i'm a miserable person for pointing that out

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Last season on 12/1/14 (after losses to Clemson and Old Dominion) LSU's RPI was 111. After they beat West Virginia it was at 36. LSU hasn't played its "West Virginia" yet this year. That will come when they face Oklahoma at the end of the month. While that game is at home and thus, slightly less significant than a road game, that fact is balanced out by the fact that Oklahoma likely will be a much better team than last year's WVU team. Furthermore, once LSU got into SEC play last year they played only 5 games against teams that made the NCAAT. Now of course we don't know who will make the NCAAT this year from the SEC. But if we say for argument purposes that UK, A&M and USC look like the best bets right now, then that means LSU will have 5 games against NCAAT teams this year as well. They are already 1-0 against that group with the win over UK.

Again, the last two wins in no way makes LSU a lock for the tournament. But it's a damn good start and there is at least as much opportunity to bolster their resume left on the schedule now as there was at this time last year. Plus, if LSU keeps winning in the SEC and can beat OU, the 4 losses in Nov/Dec. (aside from Wake) can be mitigated by saying that LSU was missing ~30% - 50% of their offense when those games were played. That would be a MUCH bigger argument for their inclusion rather than interest in Simmons. The NCAAT is going to get TV ratings no matter what.

January HAD to be the month where they got their stuff together. It was their last shot. So far, they have.

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I love how you leave out the Arky game

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i didn't leave it out. it was the last regular season game. if lsu was on last 4 lists right up to that game, lsu was on the bubble until the end, like i said which is contrary to what you said.

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LSU wasn't even talked about as being on the fence

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that doesn't mean that they weren't. it just means they didn't mention it on the selection show, if that's the show you're talking about.

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The results do match the talent ever since all the talent started playing they have only lost one game

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great point. they've been doing what they're supposed to do except that time when they didn't. and btw, vandy and uk are good, but people are acting like they're great and lsu just got penciled in to the tourney bracket.

so if lsu does tear up the sec but still doesn't make the tourney, the excuse will be that jones was missing 2 starters in dec so, he gets a pass. last year, "well, 2 years ago, trent didn't recruit." when will the excuses and the disappointment stop?

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But hey, you don't even think getting LSU into the tourney last year was a step in the right direction for this program

great strawman. of course it was. 

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Then this:

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They won 11 last year and finished #3 in the conference

who cares? they didn't even win a tourney game. what difference does it make?

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Derp

Absolutely miserable

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what i did say was that the entire halftime commentary was about how bad uk was playing and how inconsistent they've been, both of which are pretty obvious to any reasonable observer. but let's keep acting like lsu beat a great team! 

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I brought up their RPI. I'm sorry you don't love facts...or just consistent logic

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 lsu does tear up the sec but still doesn't make the tourney, the excuse will be that jones was missing 2 starters in dec so, he gets a pass. last year, "well, 2 years ago, trent didn't recruit." when will the excuses and the disappointment stop?

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Jesus, you're dense

last year, only uk had more talent than lsu. lsu had top 2 talent in a power 5 conference. do you think an embarrassing first round loss is a commensurate result? please don't say yes

Dude are you reall this stupid
Yes we had 2 promising good players that got drafted. But we had NO DEPTH. NONE AT ALL. That was always the problem, players getting gassed twords the end, and playing with nothing left in the tank (see the UK game if you're clueless)
Also Embarrassing first loss you say. We lost at the buzzer to a SWEET 16 TEAM. To further break it down for you, that means 1 of 16 teams playing the best hoops in the nation at the end of the year.

Also you keep pounding the point of JJ not winning a tourney game at North Texas. I know he brought his mean green into BR and crushed the Tigers. Also did any former or later coach there win a tourney game? In fact did any former or latter coaches even get into the dance. You my friend are a piece of work.

I'm sure the only solution for you from here on out, one that will truly make you happy is for LSU to go undefeated from here on out, win the conference, conference tourney, the national championship, and your cherry on top would have to be to fire the coach after all of this has been accomplished.

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last year, only uk had more talent than lsu. lsu had top 2 talent in a power 5 conference. do you think an embarrassing first round loss is a commensurate result? please don't say yes

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Darcy and Patterson started for us last year and all we had off of the bench was Josh Gray. We were not that talented. Go watch some other college basketball teams.