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Posted on 9/20/15 at 3:28 pm to Powerman
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Fournette is on a completely different level It's insulting to compare Collins to him
I agree. Cecil did not have the leg drive that Fournette has when contact occurs.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 3:46 pm to lindsfav
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For those of you too young to have been there for Cecil Collins vs. Auburn, we felt the same about him afterwards that you feel for Fournette today. We were in awe. He had other world ability that was not measurable. LF is Cecil with good mental health. LF is truly amazing but to say Cecil wasn't is simply not true. Cecil just wasn't a good person, but he was a once in a few decades back like LF is
very well said, and accurate.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:02 pm to Errerrerrwere
quote:Spoken like a man who didn't see Collins play live.
Anyway, no way Diesel was this good. No way.
LF7 makes it look effortless.
Cecil the Diesel's legend is legit, and if anything, he had a more impressive beginning. You're not taking this into account: Fournette has a year under his belt, a season where he looked awesome at times, but also average at times too. Collins, on the other hand: he was coming to a team with Kevin Faulk, who was being compared already to Tony Dorsett (a Heisman Trophy winner and NFL HOF'er for the youngsters); and all Collins did was come in, produce 3 straight games similar to what Fournette did yesterday, get hurt, and then vanish into infamy
Fournette looks to be insanely good, but for those who weren't around for it: yes, Collins looked just as good. And the best point of reference was that he looked so much better, in ways, than Faulk, who was an All-American talent.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:05 pm to Zach
quote:Are you ignorant, or just trolling? Collins absolutely ran with as much power. And he was doing it against much better Auburn linebackers (i.e. Takeo Spikes) than what the Barn fielded yesterday.
Fournette is on a completely different level It's insulting to compare Collins to him
I agree. Cecil did not have the leg drive that Fournette has when contact occurs.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:12 pm to Scoob
Agree that leg drive by Collins was unreal. Always going forward. I think in this assessment better than LF. Collins had an uncanny ability to create contact on purpose then seperate from the tackler and keep going. He used contact as a tool.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:15 pm to Scoob
I was at the Auburn game in 97 and was at the game yesterday. I can't say which one is better because their running styles are totally different. CC probably had better moves and vision where LF just runs over people. Something I didnt see brought up was how Auburn's and State's 97 defenses Would compare to their 15 defenses. I would say both units were probably better in 97. That doesn't mean I think CC was better, but you can't discount what he did because he only played in 3 games.
This post was edited on 9/20/15 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:16 pm to lindsfav
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Agree that leg drive by Collins was unreal
Oh, it was real. That's why his leg broke.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:19 pm to jepmyers
Wrong. Collins never could have been Leonard.
Morons like you need to get something. Leonard is a once every 50 years type talent.
Morons like you need to get something. Leonard is a once every 50 years type talent.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:20 pm to lindsfav
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For those of you too young to have been there for Cecil Collins vs. Auburn, we felt the same about him afterwards that you feel for Fournette today. We were in awe. He had other world ability that was not measurable. LF is Cecil with good mental health. LF is truly amazing but to say Cecil wasn't is simply not true. Cecil just wasn't a good person, but he was a once in a few decades back like LF is.
Thanks for bringing perspective. Man, either a bunch of kids in here or adults that don't understand how special of a back CC was. It's not tainting LF to compare him to Deisel as a back. Up until this season CC was the best back (though with a small sample) most had ever seen in p&g. That's changing quickly. And I'd add LFs sample is still small too. His freshman season wasn't better than all previous. It's also ironic that CC's stats were very similar and against the exact same teams.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:21 pm to jepmyers
It really is a good comparison for those too young to remember the diesel. Now you see what all the fuss was about. Picture a guy coming in and doing what fournette has done this year and then never playing another down for the Tigers.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:22 pm to Zach
I agree and any talk to the contrary is plain idiotic.
Went to many many LSU games in the 90s. Cecil wasn't as good as Faulk. And I think LF7 breaks all of his records.
Maybe some in his sophomore season.
Went to many many LSU games in the 90s. Cecil wasn't as good as Faulk. And I think LF7 breaks all of his records.
Maybe some in his sophomore season.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:25 pm to Errerrerrwere
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Cecil wasn't as good as Faulk.
Ok bro.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:27 pm to Errerrerrwere
Faulk is my favorite all time tiger for what he did for the program. But Cecil was better.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:33 pm to geauxjo
He wasn't. Not at LSU nor in the pros.
Surely, simple statistics can show you that.
And the fact that the guy is/was/will always be a criminal has to have some stake in this matter?
You can say all you want that he was talented and gifted more so than Faulk or LF7 all you want. The numbers don't lie; and I'll go to those first before I deem someone the GOAT.
Surely, simple statistics can show you that.
And the fact that the guy is/was/will always be a criminal has to have some stake in this matter?
You can say all you want that he was talented and gifted more so than Faulk or LF7 all you want. The numbers don't lie; and I'll go to those first before I deem someone the GOAT.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:34 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
I only own one jersey, and never wear it...but it says diesel on the back. He was a legend that vanished into infamy.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:35 pm to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Faulk is my favorite all time tiger for what he did for the program.
agree
quote:agree again
But Cecil was better.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:43 pm to biglego
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Collins GOAT
Holy shite. I've never seen a more hyped player off of 4 games. Yes I saw all 72 carries Collins had at lsu. Yes he had a great 4 game stretch against 3 scrubs and a 10-3 Auburn team. The guy had 3 tds for his career. Let it go. He had a good 4 game stretch but that's where it ends. He isn't even a top 20 Rb at lsu.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:51 pm to nofear67
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The lack of respect for Collins is shocking
What's shocking is the GOAT status for a rb with 72 carries and 3 tds for his career. He ran well against 3 scrubs and Auburn. So what.
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He was a great RB in the short time he played.
A lot of rbs could be great running behind that 1997 line. MCCLURE,FANECA,PERRY,JACKSON,
LANGLEY,with the one of the best fbs in lsu history TOMMY BANKS.
Posted on 9/20/15 at 4:52 pm to Errerrerrwere
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You can say all you want that he was talented and gifted more so than Faulk or LF7 all you want. The numbers don't lie; and I'll go to those first before I deem someone the GO
The numbers in the games he played in sure don't lie. What you're saying is those were a fluke and he'd never have carried on with those type numbers. I say his talent was obvious and he surely would have. You're also alluding to the fact you think LF will continue to produce the type numbers he did in the last 2 games. He hasn't yet. You think he will. I do too but it's not at all a stretch to compare the 2 now and say for the few games CC played in he was mind-blowing.
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