re: We've seen this before...2012

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2008, 2009, 2010, 2012 and 2014 were all atrocious years on offense for LSU

People preaching for patience are honestly lacking in perspective. He's had an incredibly long time to right the offensive ship and people are tired of....being unable to field a balanced offense that can make plays through the air.

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All we've heard for the past few days, not to mention all of last year and beyond, is that Miles cannot recruit and develop decent QB play and doesn't even try to throw the ball, 3 yards and a cloud of dust blah blah blah. Well, except for 2013. And 2005. And 2006. And 2007. And all of 2011 before postseason play. Yeah, yeah, other than those 4.75 seasons, awful awful offense with awful QB play.

Ok, let's take a look:

In 2008, one of your "atrocious" offensive years, Jarrett Lee averaged over 27 passes per game in SEC play. LSU threw the ball more than they did in 2006 with Jamarcus Russell. This was despite having an 1100+ yard rusher that averaged 5.5 yards per carry. While that offense did average over 30 points a game, the interceptions, notably the pick sixes, from a young QB that clearly wasn't ready for the situation he was thrown into are enough to put that offense in the "minus" column, it unquestionably goes against your case for Miles' lack of balance or willingness to throw the ball.

So now we have 5.75 seasons of balance and willingness to throw the ball.

In 2009, Jordan Jefferson also threw the ball 27 times per game in SEC play, with much much more success than Lee did in 208. JJ threw 4 more TDs than Lee did with NINE less INTs and improved on his passer rating by over 22 points, finishing 10 points higher than Matt Flynn did in 2007. All of this despite working with by far the worst running game and OL of Miles' tenure, and LSU scored less than 20 points only twice all season. Once again, far from proving your point about Miles' QBs and unwillingness to throw, although most of your ilk only remember the Ole Miss game from 2009 anyway, so you would probably count it in the "atrocious" category.

So, 6.75 seasons of throwing the ball with great balance.

2010, huge regression by JJ led to just over 16 pass attempts per game in the SEC, which no one complained about, as his rating dropped 20 points and interceptions went up by 3 while his TDs dropped by 10. Of course, the team was winning with great defense and a great running game, with another 1100+ yard rusher. When Lee's attempts in SEC play are added in, LSU threw for nearly 24 passes a game in SEC play, but I'll give you this one as a year against Miles for QB play and passing. You now have ONE, against 6.75.

2011, great QB play for all but the final 2 games. Not asked to do too much, but still combined to throw 21 times a game in SEC play, with 20 TDs and only 5 INTs between them, with both posting the highest rating of their careers. This despite a stellar run game and playing the majority of those games with a huge second half lead. Certainly not one for your column, but again, your ilk only remembers 1/9 from the greatest season in LSU history.

2012, despite some early season bumps, Zach Mettenberger improved down the stretch and attempted just under 30 passes per game in SEC play, never attempted less than 25 in SEC, and threw for at least 30 in each of the last three. We are now at 7.75 seasons of Miles willing to throw the ball with balance.

2013, not much explanation needed here. Over 25 attempts per game in SEC play, massive improvement in all areas of offense and passing game, better QB rating than Russell in 2006. That season was already counted in my opening count, so we're still at 7.75 seasons of willingness to throw the ball with balance out of NINE seasons.

Last year was obviously your coup de grace, the last straw, and I obviously won't argue. Lack of balance and poor QB play. That's two for you.

Two seasons, plus 2 games in 2011, against 7 seasons and 12 games in 2011, with clear balance in the run and passing game.

2008, 2010, and 2014 with subpar QB play, against 7 seasons with good to great QB play in Miles' 10 seasons.


But but but, Miles, and Michigan, and Bo, and JJ, and Jennings, and pics, and 21-0. Yeah, that's pretty much what you and everyone in your dumbass clown car sound like.

I have very little doubt that this QB, offense, and team are going to be just fine, and will be much more aggressive as the season wears on, because, you know, facts and history and stuff.

But by all means, keep making yourself miserable while the rest of us enjoy, you know, actually watching our team go through a season.

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I have no opinion on the subject...

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hell I got called out for saying I think Miss. St. is going to suck this year

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quote: No back pedaling my friend, you have me confused with someone stupid or something.....don't make that mistake young one! Assumptions are stupid to make, I never expected a blowout, PERIOD! You can make excuses for a coach who chooses to play in fear, than to exert fear all you want. I am proud of how our football team played. But no one with any common sense can walk away from that game questioning the decision-making late in that game. I like how in all of this rambling, you completely ignored my question. quote: And no, we were thoroughly beaten last year with a chance to still win........just like Moo State was this year, You just said MSU lost as opposed to us winning, but somehow you see last year differently? quote: Believe what you want, but I'm holding serve If holding serve means you've dodged a question and been proven to be a hypocrite in how you view close games, yes you have.

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You are horrible! A truly confused individual...good luck the rest of the season, and hopefully you would have learned football by then.

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Insults instead of actually responding (I get why you aren't though). What a great example of demonstrating football knowledge.

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I can't help you understand what I've already stated....that's what school is for......sorry

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2009 - 11th out of 12 teams in SEC Total Offense 2010 - 11th out of 12 teams in SEC Total Offense 2012 - 10th out of 14 teams in SEC Total Offense 2014 - 14th out of 14 teams in SEC Total Offense

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sigh

Thank you, the focus should be on the variables. Can't ask a square to be a circle.

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2009 - 11th out of 12 teams in SEC Total Offense 2010 - 11th out of 12 teams in SEC Total Offense 2012 - 10th out of 14 teams in SEC Total Offense 2014 - 14th out of 14 teams in SEC Total Offense



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Just sad....

I get it that we all want more passing. But would we want the final score result of the SEC team that passed for 412 yards and ran for only 103 yards on Saturday (Arky)?

We really just need more unpredictability and I will be satisfied.

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Instead, all you do is focus on all the negatives, even when we win. That shite gets old, and it' all you do. I'm sure you're not the only one that got a PM like that

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Yea cuz the negatives are NEVER discussed by the coaches and players after a winning game....you know, like in cool, secret team meetings and such. they just focus on all the happy stuff.
Hell, I've heard they even watch film and critique and nasty shite like that.
How dare they!!!!!!!

So what the coaches are allowed to critique/complain/bitch but the fans are not allowed to do so?? Need to get out my fandom manual again....must have missed that part in the bylaws.