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Why do they keep racing American Pharoah?

Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:54 pm
Posted by BamaHater
Houston
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:54 pm
Horse won the triple crown and is a rockstar in the horse racing community. Let the dude live out his days as a stud getting as much as he can handle. The stud fee for him will be outrageous anyways so there will be money coming in left and right. God forbid in one of his next races he breaks a leg and they have to put him down.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:04 pm to
Agree 100%. He already won the Triple Crown so there's nothing left for him to do on the track.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
18789 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:05 pm to
Old owners have the right to race him until the end of the race season I believe.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:12 pm to
Because all but 1 of the triple crown winners raced after.

Because he still hasn't proven himself against older horses.

Because I think he is still getting better.

He also hasn't really broken any records or anything.

He is good for racing bc too many retire young from injury and/or fear of losing. We are breeding weaker horses because of this. Hell, he's only run 9 times.

If he beats older horses and wins the breeders cup he will get a better book of mares. At this point, if I had a mare, I'd much rather breed to his dad. Pharoah's dam side is somewhat weak and pioneer of the Nile has now produced a triple crown winner.

Do you know anything about or even follow racing? Because it's these casual fans having these stupid arguments that make me want to punch things. I freaking HATE the he won a triple crown so should be retired crew.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:13 pm to
Settle down, Aspy.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:14 pm to
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Do you know anything about or even follow racing? Because it's these casual fans having these stupid arguments that make me want to punch things. I freaking HATE the he won a triple crown so should be retired crew.
:woh:
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:14 pm to
There's plenty left for him to do on the track. He may have won a bunch of grade 1 races, but he has yet to run in a non restricted stake.

Don't worry, they are playing it safe. He'll stay age restricted til the classic,

And as far as a broken leg goes, would you like me to list all the nice stallions we lost to paddock accidents just this past year? Because horses don't only break things in races. Some even die while breeding.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 8:17 pm
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:16 pm to
Sorry. I've been having this fight a lot on Facebook with my idiot horse show friends.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:26 pm to
quote:

The stud fee for him will be outrageous anyways so there will be money coming in left and right.


The owners of AP sold the breeding rights, so his stud fee doesn't concern them.

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. God forbid in one of his next races he breaks a leg and they have to put him down.


That would be terrible, but you know they have a HUGE insurance policy on him, right?

And I'll tell you exactly why they keep running him. It's good for the sport. The people absolutely love him. It's bringing coverage to a sport that needs all the coverage that they can get. Oh and the race today was worth $1.75 million. So they had $1.05 million reasons to run him today.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:27 pm to
quote:

There's plenty left for him to do on the track. He may have won a bunch of grade 1 races, but he has yet to run in a non restricted stake.

Don't worry, they are playing it safe. He'll stay age restricted til the classic,

And as far as a broken leg goes, would you like me to list all the nice stallions we lost to paddock accidents just this past year? Because horses don't only break things in races. Some even die while breeding.


Thanks, that makes sense. I always assumed that the Crown was the biggest payoff due to the fact that it brought in millions of casual fans who can't even name a race outside the Big Three.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:29 pm to
6,000 people showed up yesterday morning at Monmouth park (MONMOUTH!) to watch him gallop around the track fairly slowly. They a screamed when he went by. Lots of them made signs. He is so good for racing right now.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:30 pm to
Sorry I get so into this. It's just...

He's soooo good for the sport right now. And we haven't even seen how good he really is.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 8:31 pm
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:37 pm to
Oh, and look at this.

quote:

The New York Racing Association announced Saturday that it would raise the purse for its Travers Stakes to $1.6 million if American Pharoah joined the race on August 29.


I don't think they will take him there because Bob doesn't love that race. We will see what happens.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:38 pm to
And Saratoga sold out for reserved seating for travers day with just the possibility of him running.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40740 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:07 pm to
Keep fighting the good fight. I don't know shite about this, but you seem passionate and logical here.
Posted by Aspercel
Member since Jan 2009
106672 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:14 pm to
Thanks

I'm definitely passionate
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119485 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:17 pm to
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Because all but 1 of the triple crown winners raced after.

Because he still hasn't proven himself against older horses.

Because I think he is still getting better.

He also hasn't really broken any records or anything.

He is good for racing bc too many retire young from injury and/or fear of losing. We are breeding weaker horses because of this. Hell, he's only run 9 times.

If he beats older horses and wins the breeders cup he will get a better book of mares. At this point, if I had a mare, I'd much rather breed to his dad. Pharoah's dam side is somewhat weak and pioneer of the Nile has now produced a triple crown winner.

Do you know anything about or even follow racing? Because it's these casual fans having these stupid arguments that make me want to punch things. I freaking HATE the he won a triple crown so should be retired crew.


All of this. Well said. Let's see what he does at Keeneland.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Let's see what he does at Keeneland.


I couldn't think of a better track for him to run the Classic. Speed bias will make it fairly easy on him. I can't wait until we get to Breeders Cup weekend.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119485 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:23 pm to
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I couldn't think of a better track for him to run the Classic. Speed bias will make it fairly easy on him. I can't wait until we get to Breeders Cup weekend.


I drive past there twice a day. Not looking forward to that weekend at all.
Posted by Bho
Lexington
Member since Dec 2007
24804 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:30 pm to
Yeah, I live about 5 minutes down Man O War from Keeneland. Luckily I won't have to worry about the traffic that weekend because I will be heading in the opposite direction.
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