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re: Big Ten wants to eliminate FCS opponents

Posted on 8/1/15 at 11:33 am to
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
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Posted on 8/1/15 at 11:33 am to
Only three P5 schools have never played a FCS opponent-

Notre Dame, UCLA, & USC


ULL has the most losses to FCS opponents(20), while UL and Kansas St. have the most from P5 teams.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10697 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 11:45 am to
quote:

Isn't LSU required by the LA government to play instate schools? It's a way for them to force LSU to supplement their athletic programs.


I've seen this said before, but can someone link the state law. I find it strange that conservative Louisianan politicians would be in favor of socialized athletic programs.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145331 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:37 pm to
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There is a large gap in talent between Northwestern State and San Jose State. San Jose State isn't overly impressive, but at least they're winning bowl games, while Northwestern State went 0-11 in the FCS not long ago.

between San Jose state and a FCS school? Sure. But if you're Ohio state, or a&m, or alabama, or LSU, or any other major P5 program, it doesn't matter. You are still going to beat that school by 5 touchdowns
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73365 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:53 pm to
In 2012, Ohio State beat UAB by two touchdowns. In 2013, Ohio State beat Buffalo by three touchdowns, then they beat an FCS school 76-0. Buffalo at least put up a fight, while that FCS school saw fourth stringers still putting points on them. I don't want to see that. It's not necessary when a more fair level of competition can be found at the FBS level.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35251 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 12:57 pm to
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TCU was, you know the team that was Top 5 last year and starts the year #2 this year? I guess they never recovered from LSU in the opener...
Wait. You don't actually count beating teams that go 4-8 as beating a top 25 team just because they happened to be overrated during the preseason rankings? The only ranking that really matters is the ranking, taking into account the entire season.

If a team isn't anywhere near the top 25 at the end of the year, then beating them isn't beating a top 25 team.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58166 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 1:06 pm to
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I'm sick of rent a wins. Maybe the schedule should be pared down to what it was in the 70's if we're going to have these worthless games.


It doesnt matter if you dump FCS teams. There will always be rent a wins b/c there is always a bottom level of teams. The only way to get to where every team is about even would be to have a 40 team division made up of huge state schools.

and at acting like LSU didnt have rent a wins in the 70s when Rice was on the schedule every year. That's like saying the typical Vandy team isn't a rent a win 95% of the time.
This post was edited on 8/1/15 at 1:08 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145331 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 2:38 pm to
And I can down the list of small FBS schools that a&m killed just as bad as FCS schools. Fact of the matter is, when you are a top 25 FBS program, there really isn't a difference if they are a FCS program or small FBS
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 4:23 pm to
That would eliminate about a 3rd of their conference. Smart move.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41276 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 6:33 pm to
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Wait. You don't actually count beating teams that go 4-8 as beating a top 25 team just because they happened to be overrated during the preseason rankings? T


TCU's starting QB broke his arm in the 2nd half and didn't play again that season.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:37 pm to
Didn't LSU tie Rice 13 13 in Shreveport mid seventies?
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:37 pm to
Didn't LSU tie Rice 13 13 in Shreveport mid seventies?
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136903 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 7:46 pm to
LINK

No
Posted by Chillini
Member since Sep 2012
3153 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 10:04 pm to
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what gets me is how some FBS schools lose to FCS... are they really actually starting the waterboys?

Seriously? The talent differential between your average low FBS school and your top FCS school isn't in the starters. It is all in the depth. A FCS school could have a bunch more starting talent and just not have the depth at important positions to hold up against fresher legs.

Not to mention a lot of FCS schools have top BCS talent that may have fricked up so they transfer down for immediate playing time.
Posted by TheWalrus
Member since Dec 2012
40891 posts
Posted on 8/1/15 at 10:09 pm to
Yip. And guys like Tre Roberson didn't even frick up, he lost his spot to a damn good QB at IU.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29467 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 2:47 am to
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quote:
There is a large gap in talent between Northwestern State and San Jose State. San Jose State isn't overly impressive, but at least they're winning bowl games, while Northwestern State went 0-11 in the FCS not long ago.
between San Jose state and a FCS school? Sure. But if you're Ohio state, or a&m, or alabama, or LSU, or any other major P5 program, it doesn't matter. You are still going to beat that school by 5 touchdowns

Didn't Nebraska need a ridiculous last second touchdown to beat McNeese last year? Or is Nebraska not a major P5 program?
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:29 am to
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There is a large gap in talent between Northwestern State and San Jose State. San Jose State isn't overly impressive, but at least they're winning bowl games, while Northwestern State went 0-11 in the FCS not long ago


Yes that was our worst season in program history. We have improved a great deal since then under Jay Thomas.

Last year we knocked off La Tech (which won a bowl game). We have also had some wins over FBS schools in the past (TCU, ULL, ULM).

On most years there is little difference between McNeese, SLU and Northwestern and the San Jose State's of the world.

I would easily put the top 10 FCS schools over most lower tier FBS schools. No difference in playing either as the better FBS teams should have the depth to win the games without much trouble.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73365 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:44 pm to
There is a huge difference. Recruiting, facilities, personnel, athletes, etc.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:49 pm to
Rutgers will need to say goodbye to annual MEAC opponents.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
73365 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:49 pm to
Sure, once in awhile the FCS champs will beat Iowa State. Strange things happen, but you're talking about the top of the FCS vs the bottom of the FBS. The real discussion is top level FBS programs beating lower FCS teams to death for money and easy wins.
Posted by Sevendust912
Member since Jun 2013
11367 posts
Posted on 8/2/15 at 1:52 pm to
all leagues should play a round robin. conferences need to start shedding teams not adding them.
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