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re: Commissioner Rob Manfred sees expansion in MLB's future

Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
6025 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:34 pm to
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The fans would support it if they wouldn't have to basically drive at least an hour or more to get to a game in rush hour traffic. Leaving for a 7pm game at 4:30 isn't fun nor feasible for many fans. So we stay home. The other problem is the lack of public transportation to get fans to the ballpark. So driving is the only option.


Somewhere near Amalie Arena would be great, start getting too far north and they alienate a sizeable portion of their season ticket holders in Sarasota-Bradenton.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:39 pm to
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And don't tell me Montreal

I once went to watch Boston play at the old Jarry Park stadium.

But it was the Patriots, not the Red Sox.

Just happened to be in Montreal that day.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:44 pm to
People don't want to hear this but NYC could support a third team in Brooklyn easily.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70923 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:49 pm to
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People don't want to hear this but NYC could support a third team in Brooklyn easily.


I've always wondered if pro sports were just starting now, what would the distribution of teams look like. New York would probably have like 4 baseball teams.
Posted by TJGator1215
FL/TN
Member since Sep 2011
14174 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:50 pm to
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Somewhere near Amalie Arena would be great, start getting too far north and they alienate a sizeable portion of their season ticket holders in Sarasota-Bradenton.


I would love to see this.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36155 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:52 pm to
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Texas doesn't need 3 MLB teams.



California has the Angels, Dodgers, Padres, A's, and Giants

Texas could support 60% of that. Supposedly if you look at the demographics of the city and their interest in baseball SA would be a good fit.

Posted by tccdc
Washington, DC
Member since Sep 2007
3602 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 5:57 pm to
Put this old man down for return to Montreal.

They had some of the worst management in MLB, they played in a stadium that was outdated by 20 years.

And they can bring back a great mascot



Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65991 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:09 pm to
Yeah but Oakland and SD are bottom tier every year in attendance, even with a nice new stadium in SD.

Meanwhile Houston is having a fantastic season but are still 26th out of 30 in attendance currently, so I have my doubts Texas could successfully support a 3rd team.

I'd just rather see new places get a shot like OKC or Portland.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 6:10 pm
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
11868 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:14 pm to
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There are already too many teams and not enough quality players to go arpund.


Shut your mouth Ryno! With and expansion draft -- Astros have a shot of getting rid of Carter!
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36155 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:37 pm to
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I'd just rather see new places get a shot like OKC or Portland.


I don't think that's a great idea in light of the comparative populations in those areas versus SA.

OKC having the Thunder is great. A single professional focus to complement their love of OU football makes sense. You'd really have to sell me on their obsession with baseball before I thought a smaller population center was going to support 81 home games a year.

Also, I'd argue criticizing SD and Oakland is unfair unless you first praise the Dodgers and Giants for being two of the top three teams in attendance. San Diego isn't really bad either - with over 31k a game they are just outside the top ten and comfortably ahead of the Mariners at 29k (who would likely go down further if you planted a team in Oregon)
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 6:40 pm to
A new team in NY would have to pay a ton to the Mets and Yankees. Same for the Meadowlands.. Bet the Phillies stick there hand out too.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 7:14 pm
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42582 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:06 pm to
The south needs another team.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
31668 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:07 pm to
Why dilute the game even more than what it already is?
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
1671 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:13 pm to
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Posted by UltimateHog
Oregon
Member since Dec 2011
65991 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:16 pm to
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OKC having the Thunder is great. A single professional focus to complement their love of OU football makes sense. You'd really have to sell me on their obsession with baseball before I thought a smaller population center was going to support 81 home games a year.


OKC supports their triple A team quite well, top 5 in attendance and generally pretty well respected for their baseball fans. How well that translates to an MLB team who knows, but I think it would do well.

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Also, I'd argue criticizing SD and Oakland is unfair unless you first praise the Dodgers and Giants for being two of the top three teams in attendance. San Diego isn't really bad either - with over 31k a game they are just outside the top ten and comfortably ahead of the Mariners at 29k


Well looking at half of this season is extremely flawed in your defense of the Padres fresh off signing and trading for big names randomly. Check the last 5 years attendance, they're right around a 20-23 average yearly, which isn't terrible until you consider the city and new stadium. Minnesota out draws them in a terrible climate and much much smaller less desirable city with an equally as bad team and new stadium.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 7:20 pm
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76774 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:27 pm to
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Houston not far from SA either


Which is a detriment to their hopes of getting a MLB team. Ditto Dallas.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76774 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:30 pm to
Now batting for the Carolina BobBats, the first baseman, Chris Carter!
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
18011 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:34 pm to
If the focus was purely on the "good" of MLB and its future as a sport they would cut back about 3-4 teams and reduce the regular season by 15-20 games.

Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71703 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:42 pm to
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reduce the regular season by 15-20 games.


154 was the traditional number. And going back to that would make it harder for players to set single-season records or chase milestones like 20 wins.

I don't see cutting 3-4 teams but I don't see adding 2 either. Charlotte would be a good city but they're Orioles territory as compensation for letting the Nats have DC. Angelos is going to be too much of a pain to let that go. Brooklyn has a great tradition and could call the team the Robins (an old nickname of the Dodgers), but the compensation to the Mets and Yankees would be insane and the land and construction costs would set them back decades.
Posted by RogerTempleton
Austin
Member since Nov 2014
3039 posts
Posted on 7/14/15 at 7:45 pm to
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if Oakland gets moved it will be to Portland.

you can maintain the division and build a really nice rivalry with Seattle.


FIFY

eta - Correct me if I'm mistaken, but I do believe Portland is the biggest 1-team sports market in the country.
This post was edited on 7/14/15 at 7:47 pm
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