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Ring Magazine ranking of best boxers since World War II
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:28 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:28 am
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The Ring decided to ask some of the most knowledgeable boxing historians and writers to give us their opinions in the form of a poll. Specifically, we asked 20 of them to rank their Top 20 modern fighters pound for pound. We used the International Boxing Hall of Fame’s criterion for “modern”: Last bout no earlier than 1943.
Of course, that eliminates a lot of great fighters who fought before 1943 but we felt that comparing fighters from the same or adjacent eras is difficult enough. To compare boxers who might’ve fought a century or more apart is fun but, we believed, less meaningful.
To be clear, we instructed each of the participants to at least consider active fighters or recently retired ones, as we wanted every boxer who has fought since World War II to be in the pool of candidates.
We awarded points based on the voting – 20 points for a first-place vote, 19 for a second-place vote and so on.
1. Sugar Ray Robinson - 396 - (17)
2. Henry Armstrong - 339 - (1)
3. Muhammad Ali - 324 - (1)
4. Roberto Duran - 296
5. Joe Louis - 293
6. Ray Leonard - 258
7. Willie Pep - 246 - (1)
8. Archie Moore - 189
9. Julio Cesar Chavez - 171
10. Ezzard Charles - 164
11. Pernell Whitaker - 132
12. Floyd Mayweather Jr - 118
13. Marvin Hagler - 117
14. Carlos Monzon - 98
15. Eder Jofre - 86
16. Sandy Saddler - 82
17. Roy Jones Jr - 80
18. Rocky Marciano - 77
19. Bernard Hopkins - 66
20. Ike Williams - 55
21. Charley Burley - 54
22. Evander Holyfield - 42
23. George Foreman - 41
24. Billy Conn - 39
25t. Manny Pacquiao - 36
25t. Larry Holmes - 36
27. Kid Gavilian - 28
27. Salvador Sanchez - 28
29. Emile Griffith - 27
29. Jose Napoles - 27
29. Holman Williams - 27
32. Mike Tyson - 26
33. Joe Frazier - 22
34. Alexis Arguello - 20
34. Marcel Cerdan - 20
34. Carlos Ortiz - 20
37. Ricardo Lopez - 19
38. Jake Lamotta - 17
38. Ruben Olivares - 17
40. Pascual Perez - 12
41. Oscar De La Hoya - 9
41. Michael Spinks - 9
41. Marco Antonio Barrera - 9
44. Thomas Hearns - 7
45. Miguel Canto - 5
45. Bob Foster - 5
47. Jimmy Bivins - 4
47. Lennox Lewis - 4
49. Sammy Angott - 3
This post was edited on 4/25/15 at 7:41 am
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:29 am to Bench McElroy
Floyd Mayweather...owned
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:32 am to TheOcean
Wonder how this would change if he wastes Pac next weekend...and if it would change more if they have a rematch and he wins convincingly again
I'm not saying that happens, but how "set" is this list for some of these guys
I'm not saying that happens, but how "set" is this list for some of these guys
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:34 am to Bench McElroy
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32. Mike Tyson - 26
This seems a little low considering he had one of the most dominating runs in boxing history.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:39 am to Bench McElroy
Mike Tyson at fricking 32? LOL
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:51 am to Bench McElroy
I agree on Tyson being too low.
Also surprised not to see Lennox Lewis.
Also surprised not to see Lennox Lewis.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 9:57 am to slackster
who did Tyson beat of note?
Nobody, that's who
Nobody, that's who
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:01 am to Buckeye06
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Wonder how this would change if he wastes Pac next weekend.
If he beat Pac three years ago it probably would have bumped him up a few. Beating Pac now means very little IMO
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:02 am to Bench McElroy
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40. Pascual Perez - 12
There is only one Pascual Perez in my book
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:05 am to Bench McElroy
I'm surprised Frazier is ranked behind Holyfield, Foreman, and Holmes.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:07 am to Rouge
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who did Tyson beat of note?
Nobody, that's who
Fair enough, but even if you criticize him for his competition, he disposed of them the way no boxer did before and no boxer will do again.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:09 am to hg
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Mike Tyson at fricking 32? LOL
when Ring magazine did their 80 best boxers for the last 80 years, Tyson game in at #72
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:11 am to TheOcean
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Floyd Mayweather...owned
He's 12th. That's higher than I would expect most people to rank him, as most people can't separate his persona from what he's accomplished in his career.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:12 am to bubbz
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Also surprised not to see Lennox Lewis.
Yeah no shite...
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:13 am to TheOcean
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If he beat Pac three years ago it probably would have bumped him up a few. Beating Pac now means very little IMO
meh he is still older than Pac
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:17 am to Palo Gaucho
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I'm surprised Frazier is ranked behind Holyfield
Holyfield had over 15 fights against boxers who won the Heavyweight title, none of them knocked him out. (Not even counting the Russians)
Buster Douglas
Mike Tyson X2
Larry Holmes
Michael Moore X2
Hasim Rahman
George Forman
Riddick Bowe X3
John Ruiz X3
Lennox Lewis X2
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:19 am to Bench McElroy
I don't have too many problems with this list. Quick first glance I think Holmes and Foreman are both too low.
I think Tyson is appropriately ranked but that always rustles the jimmies of people who were mystified by his incredible highlight reels. Hell, I loved watching him fight too, but I think he's where he belongs on this list.
Ezzard Charles always seems to be a darling of the analysts and expert historians. I just don't regard him quite as highly as these lists tend to do.
I think Tyson is appropriately ranked but that always rustles the jimmies of people who were mystified by his incredible highlight reels. Hell, I loved watching him fight too, but I think he's where he belongs on this list.
Ezzard Charles always seems to be a darling of the analysts and expert historians. I just don't regard him quite as highly as these lists tend to do.
Posted on 4/24/15 at 10:27 am to Rouge
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who did Tyson beat of note?
Nobody, that's who
BINGO!!!
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