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re: "Fast Food Workers: You Don’t Deserve $15 an Hour to Flip Burgers and That’s OK"
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:23 pm to Fat and Happy
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:23 pm to Fat and Happy
quote:
The entire store will be operated by 2-3 people who all went through the manager schools, all of which will have a degree and get paid decent money.
A more realistic version is this:
Touch screen ordering, with 1 "shift leader" ($9/hr) monitoring the front. Two people in the back working for minimum wage.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:27 pm to upgrayedd
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They don't deserve a salary that allows them to live comfortably. Poverty is a good motivator to do better for yourself, or at least it used to be.
What a wonderful Christian country we live in.
Abolish wage slavery, abolish capitalism, abolish the state. Noam Chomsky will lead us into battle during the anarcho-syndicalist revolution.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:28 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
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I chose a career that I knew would for the most part pay me enough to live above the poverty line. 13 years later with a flawless work record, 100s of hours of continuing education and training, and now a fry cook that can barely read or write and on parole wants to be paid almost as much as me
A down vote for this? I hope the mouse jumped or someone has fat fingers. FTfan makes perfect sense with this statement.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:33 pm to bmy
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Hard work is a skill.. and being good at fast food is a skill.
Being a hard worker is not a skill it's a trait. And being good at fast food is not a skill it's called doing your job well. And in most instances the ones who do their job well are rewarded with raises. Heck, I remember when I worked at McDonald's they gave people raises for getting good grades in school, regardless of work performance. So if you are a new employee or just ok employee guess what you get minimum wage. If you show you can perform your job above expectations you get raises above minimum wage.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 9:57 pm to Grim
I guarantee you that if minimum wage is increased and businesses start automating everything, the gov't will step in and make a ridiculous law forcing businesses to have a minimum number of real employees.
I guaran-fricking-tee it. The gov't doesn't care about efficiency.
I guaran-fricking-tee it. The gov't doesn't care about efficiency.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:01 pm to stlslick
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Don't these morons realize, that if the pay goes up that much, they won't have a job???
If they had that much sense, they wouldn't still be making min. wage.
When the pay for burger flippers goes that high, fast food places will automate.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:43 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Has this been posted yet?
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:48 pm to ColeCoushCoush
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If their franchises have to pay their employees more, the corporate business will have to charge the franchises less for food, cutting into their profits, in order to share a little bit more of their success with their employees.
You mean McDonald's employees are not allowed to own stock in the company? Weird.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 10:51 pm to Grim
This whole debate would end if everyone would just take an intro to microeconomics class.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:03 pm to Grim
frick these greedy pieces of shite.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:23 pm to drewnbrla
I'm not supporting it, I'm saying "guys screw around at work" isn't a fast food exclusive thing.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:32 pm to Grim
I would think as a corporation McDonalds would automate. Corporations usually find away to make up for that profit loss like big tobacco did after all of the law suits. I could be wrong though...I often wonder why places like google, facebook, apple etc don't pack up and leave the bay area just because the work force would cost half as much elsewhere....
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:53 pm to Grim
This has to be a several part project.
1. Raise the wage to 15 dollars.
2. Legislation to outlaw factory like production of food. Say that each meal that is made has to be produced by at least four people (to prevent job losses).
3. Governmental subsidies for franchises in the interim transition period, three years.
4. Introduce an "income cap" for franchises, that no franchisee can make more than 20 times what the lowest paid full time employee makes.
5. Mandatory health care coverage.
Then this can go through.
Just raising a salary to 15 is a shallow attempt to create a just result.
1. Raise the wage to 15 dollars.
2. Legislation to outlaw factory like production of food. Say that each meal that is made has to be produced by at least four people (to prevent job losses).
3. Governmental subsidies for franchises in the interim transition period, three years.
4. Introduce an "income cap" for franchises, that no franchisee can make more than 20 times what the lowest paid full time employee makes.
5. Mandatory health care coverage.
Then this can go through.
Just raising a salary to 15 is a shallow attempt to create a just result.
Posted on 4/16/15 at 11:57 pm to Grim
Fast food workers should get $15-$20 an hour!!!
But...
Get rid of the waste!
Make the counter user friendly, with touch screen service the customer can use. Automate many of the things in the back, getting rid of many positions.
A McD's could be run by three people, drive thru, cook, and manager.
But...
Get rid of the waste!
Make the counter user friendly, with touch screen service the customer can use. Automate many of the things in the back, getting rid of many positions.
A McD's could be run by three people, drive thru, cook, and manager.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:16 am to ColeCoushCoush
quote:Wage rates are not determined by a company's profit margin. Besides, why do investors who make the stores, equipment, and capital available in the first place deserve the money less than the workers themselves, who have marginal products of labor that are not very high.
Instead, good ole Mickey D's would just have to eat some of the cost. McDonald's turns hundreds of millions of dollars in profit in the US every year, as does Burger King and other fast food chains.
Posted on 4/17/15 at 12:21 am to Eurocat
quote:This is a terrible waste of labor. Jobs are not the ultimate end of the economy, productivity is.
Say that each meal that is made has to be produced by at least four people (to prevent job losses).
This post was edited on 4/17/15 at 12:21 am
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