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re: Star Wars: The Force Awakens Teaser #2 (Spolierish Discussions)

Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:15 pm to
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which is curious if you abide by the stance that the events of ROTJ were the destruction of the Empire.


That is clearly not the case
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:16 pm to
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No. The Executor crashed into the second Death Star.

Also, the Star Destroyer shown in space in the trailer is a new design not seen before which is curious if you abide by the stance that the events of ROTJ were the destruction of the Empire.


Can't remember where I saw this but I don't think the Empire collapsed after Endor. Pretty sure the Empire is still the group in charge at the start of the series but you're right I didn't realize the Star Destroyers were upgraded watching it live.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:16 pm to
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if you abide by the stance that the events of ROTJ were the destruction of the Empire.

Who said the Empire was destroyed after the events of ROTJ?
Posted by LeonPhelps
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:17 pm to
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Then it's going to suck for you when you've invested so much time reading the ASOIAF, and it turns out GRRM doesn't ever get around to finishing the story for you


That already happened to me once with Wheel of Time. Believe me, I am very aware of the high possibility of this happening again.
Posted by joeyb147
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:25 pm to
OT, but
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Wheel of Time.
At least Sanderson finished them

I'm just now getting around to re-reading the entire series so I can finally finish it this time.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:27 pm to
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Who said the Empire was destroyed after the events of ROTJ?


I never believed it, but Lucas seemed to suggest it was the end of the Empire by the crap he added to the ROTJ special edition.

BTW, I added a screen cap of the destroyer in space shown in the trailer to my post on the previous page. You can see that it's a new design we've never seen.
Posted by LeonPhelps
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:30 pm to
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I never believed it, but Lucas seemed to suggest it was the end of the Empire by the crap he added to the ROTJ special edition.


They lost control of Coruscant, the capital of the galaxy. But there is still a section of the galaxy fully in their control called The Remnant. Surely that will be the same as the expanded universe because it is a very logical way to do it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:30 pm to
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:31 pm to
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I never believed it, but Lucas seemed to suggest it was the end of the Empire by the crap he added to the ROTJ special edition.

I think what we will have is basically two "superpowers" with the Empire holding a chunk of the galaxy, and the Rebels/Republic holding a chunk. I'm guessing they will be in the middle of a cold war type of scenario when we kick off this movie.
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:34 pm to
I froze it saw the guy in the background behind the stormtroopers. I wonder if that is the big dog.
This post was edited on 4/16/15 at 4:35 pm
Posted by Fun Bunch
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:34 pm to
Look closer
Posted by apfour21
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:35 pm to
Don't know if this has been discussed but..

Why does he say "my father HAS it"?
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:36 pm to
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hasn't it been confirmed that Kylo starts as a pilot


no, not confirmed, just speculated. I don't see how they would show that without showing it in a flashback or something…the burning scenes with him slashing lightsaber happens at beginning of film most likely…not enough time to show him as a pilot with Poe…that rumor came from a grainy "spy" pic taken of what was likely an extra who looked kind of like Adam Driver walking around the green ham common set with an X wing pilot suit.

I'm leaning toward that not being true but you never know
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:36 pm to
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Why does he say "my father HAS it"?



Because they just re-used the same audio from RotJ

And he's technically "immortal" like Yoda, Obi-Wan and QuiGon since we see him at the end of RotJ
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:36 pm to
I have a medical condition called Ewok blindness. I can't see Ewoks. It makes watching ROTJ really weird so I just picture Wookies because that's how it was supposed to be anyway.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:37 pm to
I knew those damn Ewoks sided with the rebels just to install one of their own as Emperor.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:37 pm to
Well its a sound clip taken directly from ROTJ.

But there has been a lot of speculation on that. It could just be an homage to ROTJ and just using the sound clip and adding to it.

It could be that because he can commune with Anakin's force ghost the past and present are no different to him.
Posted by weagle99
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by Scoop
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:41 pm to
I didn't blink an eye at his saying his father "has" it. Because we know he exists as a Force ghost, referring to him in the present tense is no more strange than considering Obi Wan not dead in ROTJ.
Posted by apfour21
New Orleans, LA
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 4/16/15 at 4:43 pm to
I guess.

So are we gonna have an Anakin blue ghost in the movie or am I looking too much into this?
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