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re: Alonzo mourning says Jordan would average 50 today.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:02 pm to goldenbadger08
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:02 pm to goldenbadger08
Jordan could average 50 and zo isn't wrong, he just didn't say how much he'd have to shoot to get it.
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Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:03 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:Well you're the guy that said this yesterday:
This thread is full of fail.
I will listen to the Alonzo Mourning who played 4 years at Georgetown, graduated, and not only just played 15 seasons in the NBA (over half when Jordan was active) but won two defensive player of the year awards rather than all of these posters on an online sports message board
quote:Zo looks like a genius compared your post.
12th Final Four appearance for Coach K. Been a head basketball coach for 40 years and has made the NCAAT 31 times.. So he's made the Final Four in 30% of his seasons coached. Making the Final Four 3 times every decade, meh.. The longevity of his career is more impressive than anything.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:04 pm to buckeye_vol
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:05 pm to htran90
quote:He would have to shoot ~ 40 times per game, maybe more. It would be much easier to play defense when one guy shoots > 50% of the time
Jordan could average 50 and zo isn't wrong, he just didn't say how much he'd have to shoot to get it.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:08 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:I'm sure you know much more about the NBA, the game of basketball and how to play defense than Alonzo Mourning.
He would have to shoot ~ 40 times per game, maybe more. It would be much easier to play defense when one guy shoots > 50% of the time
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:09 pm to goldenbadger08
Do you also take everything Barkley, Shaq, or Dennis Rodman says as gospel?
What about when two former players completely disagree? Who's right?
What if Mourning says Jordan would score 50 and David Robinson says Jordan would score 25? Who is right?
Just because someone was good at playing the game because they had the physical ability doesn't mean they can analyze the game better than others who weren't as good at playing the game.
A lot of great coaches were not good players. Gregg Popovich never played in the NBA, and is one of the greatest coaches. Michael Jordan is probably the greatest player, and he's a terrible GM. He's not a good judge of talent. So go figure.
What about when two former players completely disagree? Who's right?
What if Mourning says Jordan would score 50 and David Robinson says Jordan would score 25? Who is right?
Just because someone was good at playing the game because they had the physical ability doesn't mean they can analyze the game better than others who weren't as good at playing the game.
A lot of great coaches were not good players. Gregg Popovich never played in the NBA, and is one of the greatest coaches. Michael Jordan is probably the greatest player, and he's a terrible GM. He's not a good judge of talent. So go figure.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:11 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:11 pm to goldenbadger08
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:12 pm to msudawg1200
quote:I agree but that doesn't mean he would average 50 today.
The best ever regardless of era
Regardless of whether you like the way today's game is played, there is no denying that bigger, faster, stronger athletes are playing today. Outside of Dominique and Drexler, Jordan really didn't have that much competition at his position. Not to say there weren't great teams.
If Kobe couldn't even sniff averaging 40 during the mid '00's, Jordan wouldn't average 50.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:15 pm to Tigersfan
Zo is wrong.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
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PrimeTime Money
You're right.. Who knows how many current or former NBA players, coaches and GMs we have posting here in this thread.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:16 pm to goldenbadger08
Popovich has played 0 minutes in the NBA, but he knows a whole lot about it.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:19 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:Before today I would have said no, but when somebody makes a comment as dumb as his was (provides he believes it) then it doesn't take much to have more knowledge than him.
I'm sure you know much more about the NBA, the game of basketball and how to play defense than Alonzo Mourning.
And besides, basketball knowledge =\= basketball skills. MJ is a prime example of this as he is a poor executive.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:19 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:So MJ would score as many points as LBJ and Anthony Davis combined--the 3rd and 4th leading scorers in the NBA? That's illogical. Surprising from Zo; obviously expected from you.
You're right.. Who knows how many current or former NBA players, coaches and GMs we have posting here in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:21 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:23 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
it doesn't take much to have more knowledge than him.
quote:You have more basketball knowledge than Alonzo Mourning
buckeye_vol
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:23 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:We're not discussing the intricacies of Jerry Sloan's Flex Action offense here. It doesn't take a basketball genius to know Jordan wouldn't average 50 points per game.
You're right.. Who knows how many current or former NBA players, coaches and GMs we have posting here in this thread.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:23 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:Based on his comments, just about everyone in this thread has more basketball knowledge (or at least critical thinking skills to use basic knowledge) than Zo; that is pretty much everybody but you.
You have more basketball knowledge than Alonzo Mourning
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:26 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:27 pm to PrimeTime Money
quote:Of course he wouldn't but the point is if there are two groups of people telling you something regarding the game of basketball.. in this instance, a former professional basketball player and random online basketball fans it's foolish to value the latter over the former.
It doesn't take a basketball genius to know Jordan wouldn't average 50 points per game.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:27 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:It's certainly possible from a macro standpoint.
You have more basketball knowledge than Alonzo Mourning
He isn't smarter than Mourning when it comes to on the court technique... like the finer points of playing down low. But that doesn't mean he can analyze the game effectively.
In other words, he could be the big man coach of a team to teach players technique, but he's probably not the guy who can invent a new offense.
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:31 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:When somebody makes dumb and clearly clueless comments, it doesn't become less dumb because he is a HOFer. Your trying to "appeal to his authority," which is a logical fallacy, and ignoring that his logic is fundamentally flawed.
Of course he wouldn't but the point is if there are two groups of people telling you something regarding the game of basketball.. in this instance, a former professional basketball player and random online basketball fans it's foolish to value the latter over the former.
This post was edited on 3/30/15 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 3/30/15 at 11:31 pm to goldenbadger08
quote:
in this instance, a former professional basketball player and random online basketball fans it's foolish to value the latter over the former.
No, what is foolish is to blindly accept the word of someone who played carte blanche when objective evaluation indicates he is likely in error.
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