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Woz: The Future of AI Is 'Scary and Very Bad for People'

Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:27 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:27 pm
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We should all be getting a litttttle nervous: The robot apocalypse is brewing.

Or at least, that's what a growing number of tech visionaries are predicting. In an interview with the The Australian Financial Review, Apple co-founder and programming whiz Steve Wozniak added his own grave predictions about artificial intelligence's detrimental impact on the future of humanity to warnings from the likes of Elon Musk, Bill Gates and Stephen Hawking.

"Computers are going to take over from humans, no question," he told the outlet. Recent technological advancements have convinced him that writer Raymond Kurzweil – who believes machine intelligence will surpass human intelligence within the next few decades – is onto something.

"Like people including Stephen Hawking and Elon Musk have predicted, I agree that the future is scary and very bad for people," he said. "If we build these devices to take care of everything for us, eventually they'll think faster than us and they'll get rid of the slow humans to run companies more efficiently."

Musk, the CEO of Tesla, has been the most vocal about his concerns about AI, calling it the "biggest existential threat" to mankind. He is an investor in DeepMind and Vicarious, two AI ventures, but “it’s not from the standpoint of actually trying to make any investment return," he said last summer. "I like to just keep an eye on what’s going on…nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition,” Musk said. “But you have to be careful.”

Meanwhile, in a Reddit 'Ask Me Anything' Bill Gates voiced similar reservations: "I agree with Elon Musk and some others on this and don't understand why some people are not concerned," he wrote. Similarly, physicist Stephen Hawking has warned that AI could eventually "take off on its own." It's a scenario that doesn't bode well for our future as a species: "Humans, who are limited by slow biological evolution, couldn't compete, and would be superseded," he said.

Worried yet? Wozniak is.

"Will we be the gods? Will we be the family pets? Or will we be ants that get stepped on? I don't know about that …"
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:31 pm to
The thing is even if AI got incredibly intelligent tomorrow that they could truly replicate themselves, they still need humans to maintain and build their successors. It is worth consideration, but I think that it would take quite some time even after Singularity that they could live in a world without humans. So long as we hold this over them, I don't think they will attack us, and we must merge with them before they can reach this point. If technological singularity happened today, they could not afford to kill or enslave us.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 11:32 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
48769 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:39 pm to



We made them.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:41 pm to
Isn't Steve Wozniak a certified nut at this point?
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:42 pm to
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"If we build these devices to take care of everything for us, eventually they'll think faster than us and they'll get rid of the slow humans to run companies more efficiently."


Sounds like a plan.
Posted by Melvin
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:42 pm to
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:45 pm to
If it gets that bad, we can set off an EMP blast and start anew.
Posted by soccerfüt
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Member since May 2013
65943 posts
Posted on 3/23/15 at 11:45 pm to
WALL-E > Obama

Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30633 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:05 am to
For all the zombie craze in movies and TV lately and aliens in media and conspiracy theory and history channel, AI really is the only real threat to mankind. It's scary to think that machines may label us as obsolete once they reach a certain point of technology. And the real issue is how far can you push technology without it being too far? We all want to become more advanced, but it appears that may eventually be our downfall
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:10 am to
I mean, if the machines did revolt and start killing people an EMP to the face would solve that pretty quickly. I don't know about yall, but a life with no technology wouldn't be too bad.

Only thing about an EMP is it would take all the fun out of a robot zombie apocalypse. Think Walking Dead but with robots instead of walkers.
Posted by BowlJackson
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2013
52881 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 12:10 am to
I mean, if the machines did revolt and start killing people an EMP to the face would solve that pretty quickly. I don't know about yall, but a life with no technology wouldn't be too bad.

Only thing about an EMP is it would take all the fun out of a robot zombie apocalypse. Think Walking Dead but with robots instead of walkers.
Posted by DBeaux225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
9510 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:10 am to
If robots take over the jobs, who's going to be the consumers of the businesses that the robots run if humans get their jobs taken away by AI and don't have any money to spend?

I know certain places like Popeyes, Burger King, and Walmart need these things to work for them. They suck at customer service.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17119 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:23 am to
Dibs on Caprica Six.
Posted by Tunasntigers92
The Boot
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:33 am to
Chappie
Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28153 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 1:40 am to
Dammit. I don't even care that much about my smartphone, can we please just calm the frick down with this technology stuff?
Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
13570 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 2:29 am to
My question in all of this is how can society sustain itself when AI takes over white collar and blue collar jobs when unemployment skyrockets to 20 - 30% and beyond? High taxes on businesses to support the skilled workers through welfare who are being pushed out of jobs for a machine?
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 5:33 am to
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eventually they'll think faster than us and they'll get rid of the slow humans to run companies more efficiently."


How is this a bad thing?
Posted by meeple
Carcassonne
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:05 am to
All of this has happened before, and will happen again.
Posted by LucasP
Member since Apr 2012
21618 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:14 am to
Serious post:

This Luddite non-sense scares the hell out of me. It was cute whenever they wanted to teach creationism as science, it was even a little endearing when they decided not to vaccinate their kids, but slowing down technological progress out of fear is too far. I seriously hope this movement gets ignored and forgotten quickly.
Posted by SamuelClemens
Earth
Member since Feb 2015
11727 posts
Posted on 3/24/15 at 6:26 am to
It would be natural selection. As a business owner I see more degreed idiots who I must hire more people to babysit everyday. I'd hope I'm one of the ones the AI keeps around and sigh in relief
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