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re: Darren Sharper pleads guilty to sexual assault; sentenced to 20 years in prison
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:10 pm to SwaggerCopter
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:10 pm to SwaggerCopter
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This. The guy had no real reason to do what he did. Everyone saying that 9 years isn't enough (and he will likely get more) are downplaying it. 9 years is a long damn time, and hopefully he can actually get real help. I think the guy could be a new man in less than 9 years to be honest. I just think we focus so much on justice, and not enough on trying to heal these people of their mental problems. Or even prevention of these problems.
Dude drugged and raped only God knows how many people and you think 9 years would have been enough? WTF is wrong with you? Feel the same way if it was your mother or sister he did it to?
ETA: I think its time you stop posting before someone finds out who you are IRL and holds your stupidity against you.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 2:13 pm
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Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:11 pm to SwaggerCopter
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9 years is a long damn time
what if it were your mother? Sister? Daughter? Wife... would 9 years be that long for him then
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:15 pm to SwaggerCopter
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This. The guy had no real reason to do what he did. Everyone saying that 9 years isn't enough (and he will likely get more) are downplaying it. 9 years is a long damn time, and hopefully he can actually get real help. I think the guy could be a new man in less than 9 years to be honest.
He was facing life in prison in LA (Louisiana not Los Angeles), but he is pleading guilty so he only gets 20 years.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:16 pm to SwaggerCopter
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SwaggerCopter
I am officially convinced you rocketards are on a separate board plotting out these trolls.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:19 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I think the guy could be a new man in less than 9 years to be honest. I just think we focus so much on justice, and not enough on trying to heal these people of their mental problems. Or even prevention of these problems.
Is this real life?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:23 pm to SwaggerCopter
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ust think we focus so much on justice, and not enough on trying to heal these people of their mental problems. Or even prevention of these problems.
I lost all respect for you here. Good lord what is wrong with you
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:25 pm to oleyeller
I'm a Christian. I believe in showing people mercy. And I hate the sin, not the sinner. I think our current justice system keeps people in prison even after they have truly reformed and feel terrible regret for their actions.
I don't have the urge to drug girls and rape them, so I don't pretend that I'm better than someone who does that stuff. Some people, for reasons difficult to explain, are tempted to do things that we cannot eve fathom. I hate their evil actions, but I feel sorry for them that they have to be tempted in those ways.
When I hear a story about a child molester, I always think how horrible it would be to have those inclinations in the first place. And it is horrible that they could not resist the temptation, but what percentage of people can? Do we know that?
Look at it like statistics. What if you found out that 95% of people tempted to drug and rape women went through with it? Wouldn't you be terrified of having a temptation of that sort? Just like I am terrified of getting a type of cancer with a very low survival rate, I would also be terrified to be attracted to children. I'm sure there are people on this planet who have these temptations, and props to them for resisting.
I in no way am trying to lessen the cruelty of the actions towards the victims. Absolutely horrible situation. But I wish our society would look at true prevention and mental healing.
I don't have the urge to drug girls and rape them, so I don't pretend that I'm better than someone who does that stuff. Some people, for reasons difficult to explain, are tempted to do things that we cannot eve fathom. I hate their evil actions, but I feel sorry for them that they have to be tempted in those ways.
When I hear a story about a child molester, I always think how horrible it would be to have those inclinations in the first place. And it is horrible that they could not resist the temptation, but what percentage of people can? Do we know that?
Look at it like statistics. What if you found out that 95% of people tempted to drug and rape women went through with it? Wouldn't you be terrified of having a temptation of that sort? Just like I am terrified of getting a type of cancer with a very low survival rate, I would also be terrified to be attracted to children. I'm sure there are people on this planet who have these temptations, and props to them for resisting.
I in no way am trying to lessen the cruelty of the actions towards the victims. Absolutely horrible situation. But I wish our society would look at true prevention and mental healing.
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:26 pm to SwaggerCopter
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The guy had no real reason to do what he did. Everyone saying that 9 years isn't enough (and he will likely get more) are downplaying it. 9 years is a long damn time, and hopefully he can actually get real help. I think the guy could be a new man in less than 9 years to be honest.
Idiot.
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The woman had arrived at the club, Jax, with former Saints safety Darren Sharper. They’d come in Sharper’s SUV from a different bar, in the Warehouse District. There seemed to be no one else around whom she knew. Stafford had taken his work crew to Jax after a stellar night at the cash register at his club. He approached Sharper, asking if the cheerleader was all right.
Sharper didn’t answer directly. Instead, he walked over to the woman, took her by the hand and walked out of the club with her. She still looked disoriented to Stafford. “None of it sat right with me,” Stafford said.
The next morning, Stafford’s friend woke up to find a naked Sharper on top of her, she told police shortly after heading to the hospital for a rape exam.
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Another rape blamed on Sharper happened at a room at the Renaissance Hotel in August 2013; Licciardi is accused of serving up that victim to the retired NFL star.
Licciardi is also accused of drugging a woman who confronted him, weeks later, about Sharper’s alleged rape of the cheerleader. The woman awoke in a muddle, covered in vomit in the bathroom of a New Orleans club in November 2013. Licciardi was accused of drugging yet another woman in August 2012.
Licciardi is now in jail in St. Charles Parish under federal custody, facing charges in both federal and state cases. Nunez is there, too; he faces rape and obstruction charges in state court only. Both men face possible life sentences on their respective rape charges; they have pleaded not guilty.
Under a search warrant, Sharper allowed investigators to swab his mouth for DNA, but he never gave a statement to police. Stafford admits he was initially scared to cooperate with authorities building a case against Sharper. He said he feared Sharper was powerful enough to have him killed.
But Stafford in the end overcame his fear. “If (helping) meant they’d get a conviction, I’d help out,” he said. “If something is going to happen to me, then it’ll happen. But I don’t think someone wants to stand on the side of someone that would do” what authorities say Sharper did to his friend.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:27 pm to SwaggerCopter
That sounds real noble until he gets out in 9 years as a changed man and rapes someone else
The victim lives with that the rest of their lives and he gets off in 9 years? C'mon dude.
The victim lives with that the rest of their lives and he gets off in 9 years? C'mon dude.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:30 pm to SwaggerCopter
im a christian also, but i believe one should have to pay for his actions. You cant go around serial raping people because he has some sort of mental illness. You still have to pay for your crime. I work in mental health also, deal with patients every day in mental health. I completely understand when we get patients that are nowhere near in their right mind and do things they have no control over. BUT they are a danger to society because of that, and just because they have that mental illness it shouldnt give them a pass to rape or kill someone. It isnt fair to the other persons family who no longer have their loved one or to a girl who was raped and has to live the rest of her life in fear.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:33 pm to oleyeller
Also I'll add that every wrongdoing can't just be explained away with a mental illness.
You can be a perfectly functioning person and still be a piece of shite.
You can be a perfectly functioning person and still be a piece of shite.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:33 pm to oleyeller
Can't believe yall are falling for these trolls.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:33 pm to wildtigercat93
I'm absolutely not advocating that he should automatically be released in 9 years, but what if h could truly be changed. What if the time and effort was put in to get him actual help, and doctors believed he was changed. Obviously, slow with lots of precautions.
Basically, I understand that our justice system has to punish people for the actions because that's all of the objective information we have. But at the same time, people do things that are unfathomable every day. And I think it's really unfair that some people have urges to do such horrible things, and if they fail, they go away for life.
We have the insanity defense for a reason. But can that not be expanded to the "this guy is completely fricked up and fighting demons all of the time, so let's try to get him real help" defense?
Basically, I understand that our justice system has to punish people for the actions because that's all of the objective information we have. But at the same time, people do things that are unfathomable every day. And I think it's really unfair that some people have urges to do such horrible things, and if they fail, they go away for life.
We have the insanity defense for a reason. But can that not be expanded to the "this guy is completely fricked up and fighting demons all of the time, so let's try to get him real help" defense?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:36 pm to SwaggerCopter
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We have the insanity defense for a reason.
You need to stop watching so many movies.
This is an extremely rare defense and an even rarer occurrence of that defense working.
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We have the insanity defense for a reason. But can that not be expanded to the "this guy is completely fricked up and fighting demons all of the time, so let's try to get him real help" defense?
A get out of jail free card? That's not how life works. Not everything is fixed with a bandaid and a still warning
This post was edited on 3/23/15 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:37 pm to SwaggerCopter
Look at the research on the likelihood of these guys to rehabilitate. It's zero.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:38 pm to oleyeller
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im a christian also, but i believe one should have to pay for his actions. You cant go around serial raping people because he has some sort of mental illness. You still have to pay for your crime. I work in mental health also, deal with patients every day in mental health. I completely understand when we get patients that are nowhere near in their right mind and do things they have no control over. BUT they are a danger to society because of that, and just because they have that mental illness it shouldnt give them a pass to rape or kill someone. It isnt fair to the other persons family who no longer have their loved one or to a girl who was raped and has to live the rest of her life in fear.
I agree with this. I guess the main frustration I'm trying to communicate is that there a hell of a lot of people judging this man that have no idea what it's like to be him. All of these people that hope he is "raped by a dildo machine" or whatever. It's just frustrating that people look at every criminal from their high horse. I have absolutely no criminal record, so it's not like I'm trying to defend myself here. But I just wish society would show more compassion to these people who clearly have horrible horrible temptations. They need to be helped, and that can definitely happen behind bars. But right now, "correcitonal facility" is a comical term for prison. Because most of those places aren't actually correcting anything.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:39 pm to Tiger Ryno
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Look at the research on the likelihood of these guys to rehabilitate. It's zero.
Because our prison system sucks balls! We need to be helping them. Sharper will probably be just as bad in 9 years. Let me say that, so ini that case he should not be free. But that's partly because he will receive no real correction in the next 9 years.
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:41 pm to SwaggerCopter
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agree with this. I guess the main frustration I'm trying to communicate is that there a hell of a lot of people judging this man that have no idea what it's like to be him.
You're right. I have no idea what it's like to be a multi million dollar serial rapist that premeditated multiple rapes all over the country
I feel so bad for him now. Gosh, can I donate money to his legal defense now? He really should serve jail time, he doesn't know any better!
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:43 pm to SwaggerCopter
Sharper got 8 years in Nevada, 9 years in Arizona, and 20 years in Louisiana. So 37 and counting? Am I reading that right?
Posted on 3/23/15 at 2:43 pm to SwaggerCopter
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Because our prison system sucks balls! We need to be helping them. Sharper will probably be just as bad in 9 years. Let me say that, so ini that case he should not be free. But that's partly because he will receive no real correction in the next 9 years.
He's going away for 20 years. Maybe you can have him come live with you and your family when his term is up.
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