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re: Johnnie Jones learned to coach basketball at the feet of Dale Brown

Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:49 pm to
I agree with you. He was a great recruiter. He was no where near a GOOD big college level x's and 0's coach, however. He was good for the program and he deserves credit for his accomplishments. But, given the tools he had, others...his contemporaries...could have, and did, better.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:49 pm to
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I agree with you. He was a great recruiter. He was no where near a GOOD big college level x's and 0's coach, however. He was good for the program and he deserves credit for his accomplishments. But, given the tools he had, others...his contemporaries...could have, and did, better.
I told you he would not even listen.

That is what dumb people do.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:51 pm to
I hate Bobby Knight. He was...is...a piece of shite. But, he knew basketball technique 10x better than Dale .
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:52 pm to
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technique
Explain this technique.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:54 pm to
Coaching fundamentals and in game management is what I meant.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:56 pm to
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man i got sad when i saw dupree at the end of the game, legit looked hurt that they lost



I'm not sure how long he can stick around, but I'll take having him as long as we can.

This team needs some fricking energy. Frick
Posted by LSUKAT
Birmingham, AL.
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:56 pm to
Lets go after the Guy that beat us today with about 1 talented kid on the team......WHY not.....
I wonder if he can recruit well at AUBURN....offer him a big raise and a bigger talent pool to pick from.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:57 pm to
It doesn't really matter. There are a handful of us on this board that understand what LSU basketball was during those years. We would be fortunate to bring the program back to those levels.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:58 pm to
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Posted by OTIS2 I hate Bobby Knight. He was...is...a piece of shite. But, he knew basketball technique 10x better than Dale .


The original assertion was that JJ learned under DB and because of that we should temper our expectations because they will mirror DB's. What we that understand DB's real accomplishments have been saying is simply that those accomplishments would turn this program back into a talked about and relevant hoops program. What was intended as more of a swipe at DB is actually a declaration of major turnaround. I for one hope it happens.
This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 11:01 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:58 pm to
quote:

Lets go after the Guy that beat us today with about 1 talented kid on the team......WHY not.....
I wonder if he can recruit well at AUBURN....offer him a big raise and a bigger talent pool to pick from.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14780 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 10:58 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/13/15 at 11:00 pm
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
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Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:01 pm to
It would be good to return to his accomplishment level. No doubt. Best X's and O's guy? bullshite.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
37596 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:01 pm to
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It doesn't really matter. There are a handful of us on this board that understand what LSU basketball was during those years. We would be fortunate to bring the program back to those levels.
Yeah, I really need to step away. I just have this intrinsic want to educate ignorance. I know it's futile.

If CJJ ends up anywhere close to Dale Brown, LSU is better for it.
Posted by OTIS2
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Member since Jul 2008
50225 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:03 pm to
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If CJJ ends up anywhere close to Dale Brown, LSU is better for it.


You see anyone arguing different?
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14780 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:04 pm to
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Posted by drizztiger


If JJ takes us to 2 final 4's in his tenure the Dome will be rocking again. That would be incredible.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:04 pm to
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It would be good to return to his accomplishment level. No doubt. Best X's and O's guy? bullshite


Like I said earlier, only a special kind of LSU superfan would undermine our Hall Of Fame basketball coach's ability to coach. We are so lucky to have such a brilliant fan base.
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50225 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:10 pm to
Prove me wrong.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14780 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:21 pm to
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Posted by OTIS2
Prove me wrong.




It's been done multiple times in this thread and you don't even realize it.
Posted by LSU92
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2008
2435 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:21 pm to
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Prove me wrong.


I've been kicking you like an old doormat, but we'll do this one more time.

1987 final 8 team that was screwed:

Darryl Joe - pg
Anthony Wilson - sg
Nakita Wilson - pf
Benard Woodside - g/f
Jose Vargas - f/c
Fess Irvin - g

where are the NBA stats on these guys?

1986 Final Four team has one legit star in JOhn Williams. Blanton was a 6.6 guy forced to start at center. Anthony Wilson and Derrick Taylor were good guards with no NBA career. Where are all the stars...where's the NBA stats on these guys.

Here's a newsflash...the great 1981 final four team did not have much NBA pedigree on it either.

Compare that to North Carolina in 1982 with Jordan, Worthy, Perkins, Dorthey etc. That is pedigree

Houston Cougars in 1983 had Drexler, Akeem, Micheaux, and other studs.


Your turn....tell us about LSU 1990 because that is all you have...

Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50225 posts
Posted on 3/13/15 at 11:23 pm to
No it hasn't. I've given Dale his due as a recruiter. And he was fired up. He was not a great game coach. He had superior talent often, but the teams were not often superior.
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