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Coaches not being completely truthful about coaching changes to recruits

Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:21 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69418 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:21 pm
Kinda unethical, no? Positional coaching is where the real development and bonding happens between coaches and players. Brian Kelly lied to the parents of his QB recruit about him staying, he's gone and the parents are now pissed. Jim Mora keeping everything under wraps until signing day was over, and then the DC news came out. Now word is breaking that OSU's RB coach is bolting, and a stud RB they got yesterday is not happy and is saying that Urban wasn't being truthful.

It is Positional coaching that makes the kids better, and I'm pretty sure they don't appreciate this crap being kept under wraps until signing day is over.

No way BK, JM, or Urban weren't aware of imminent coaching changes on the positional level
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
39626 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:24 pm to
I think its kinda fricked up personally.

Not sure if its Level 10, but I probably wouldn't do it or like it happening to me.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 5:25 pm
Posted by SwaggerCopter
H TINE HOL IT DINE
Member since Dec 2012
27233 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:26 pm to
Stuff like this makes me wish these players had more flexibility, but at the same time, guys like Daylon Mack don't need more flexibility.

Perhaps there should be a couple of basic conditions when a player signs a letter of intent.

* Provided that my position coach is still here in August

Seems like a simple clause that isn't asking too much.
Posted by RTR America
Memphis, TN
Member since Aug 2012
39600 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:32 pm to
Picking a school solely based on a coach always has been and will continue to be poor decision making on these kid's part.

I feel terrible for them that they've basically been lied to, but they should be wary of this going in.
Posted by beaver
The 755 Club
Member since Sep 2009
46861 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

Mike Weber @mikeweber25
I'm hurt as hell I ain't gone lie
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112385 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:35 pm to
The Florida situation is crazy

Dude gets hired a month ago just to leave for an NFL job on signing day
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2781 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:35 pm to
Players should be choosing a school, not a positional coach. The school should be the overriding factor in the decision. If that's the case, then any one coaching change shouldn't have a significant impact on the recruit.
Posted by Lsuhoohoo
Member since Sep 2007
94916 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:39 pm to
Commit to the school. Not a coach. Coach is never guaranteed to be there the 3 years the player is required to be. I know a relationship with a coach is a key factor in getting a player to a school but if a kid can't see himself at the school without the coach there, its probably not the right fit to begin with.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76571 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 5:46 pm to
First off, sour grapes that you didn't get Mike Weber.

Secondly, it obviously really sucks if the guy that really recruited you is leaving immediately before you get there but that's life. Ohio State will find someone just as good as Stan Drayton to coach the running backs.

It's not any more shady than a recruit being solidly committed to a school for months and then flipping on national signing day when there is no more recruits to fill that spot.

It's all a business. This kid will be fine.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41257 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:02 pm to
what happens if a kid signs a LOI, school has a coaching change and he enrolls in a different school?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83678 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:20 pm to
Deliberately keeping coaching changes from players is horrible. People disagree but I think it's perfectly fine to choose a school because of a coach. I did it and it saved my career. I realize coaches can leave once you've started school(without it being fricked up) but that's just the nature of sports and the job world.

College football is development for the NFL for many players. Lying it them about coaching changes during recruitment is horrible.
Posted by KillerNut9
Pearl Jam
Member since Dec 2007
33514 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 6:34 pm to
Sucks for the kids in these situations and they should be granted a release from their LOI if they so choose.

But for a kid to only commit to a school based on one position coach tells me he shouldn't have committed to that school anyways.
This post was edited on 2/5/15 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Buckeye Fan 19
Member since Dec 2007
36166 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:38 pm to
quote:

Brian Kelly lied to the parents of his QB recruit about him staying, he's gone and the parents are now pissed.


What?

“I was a little disappointed about Coach LaFleur, but then I had to remind myself why we picked the school,” said Mrs. Wimbush. “Coaches come and go. It was just weird getting the news on Signing Day. I know for a fact that Brandon was disappointed, but Coach Kelly was very reassuring and I appreciated that.

“[Kelly] did not want me to see it on social media first. He reassured me that he obviously has extensive experience coaching quarterbacks and there will be a very competent quarterback coach hired in place of LaFleur.”

LINK
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119681 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:49 pm to
It's not about the kids.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
68513 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 7:54 pm to
Coaches go to different schools for work just like any other job
Posted by BeYou
DFW
Member since Oct 2012
6027 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:14 pm to
TCU announced their DC was retiring yesterday as well.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71598 posts
Posted on 2/5/15 at 8:49 pm to
I'd be a lot more irritated if these high school kids weren't flip flopping with commitments constantly.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 8:39 am to
If you don't place too much importance on football, you don't have to worry about stuff like this.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76571 posts
Posted on 2/6/15 at 3:54 pm to
bump
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51860 posts
Posted on 2/7/15 at 4:48 pm to
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Kinda unethical, no?


Extremely
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