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re: Gruden's comment on MNF about offensive talent at LSU

Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:59 pm to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 8:59 pm to
young player and/or inexperinced players starting is the nature of college football. If what we ran this year is what we have to run until they gain experience because our offense is so complicated maybe we should be running something else. Not to mention the difficulty of recruiting a highly talented, big, strong armed, immobile, pro style QB that everyone says we need to run our offense. We are in an area that produces duel threat QB's. Maybe we should go with an NFL style offense that utilizes that. Like the west coast offense or something along those lines.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:03 pm to
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Maybe we should go with an NFL style offense that utilizes that.

Holy shite.
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Like the west coast offense or something along those lines. 



Did you just say recruit a Dual threat qb and run the west coast offense?
Wow
Posted by chilge1
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:14 pm to
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If what we ran this year is what we have to run until they gain experience because our offense is so complicated maybe we should be running something else


Would you rather run the complicated offense that when executed appropriate is unstoppable, or the simplistic, gimmick offense that can be stifled by an effective defense?

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We are in an area that produces duel threat QB's. Maybe we should go with an NFL style offense that utilizes that.


There's a quote somewhere from Stephen Rivers where he indicates his reasoning for transferring is because LSU's system requires a more mobile QB in the line of Harris, Franks, Patterson, etc
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
18972 posts
Posted on 12/24/14 at 9:52 pm to
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You can even open up your offense and do a lot of things that we don't do that other schools do with a 'pro style'.


You are not going to have success "opening up" a pro style offense with an inexperienced quarterback. You need to get that through your head. What needs to happen, is the staff has to find a way to keep QB prospects from transferring. That way there is a replacement for an upperclassmen that graduates or goes pro, that has been on campus already for a few years. Practice & film sessions are more key to a quarterback's development than playing time. If a QB can master it in those areas, it will translate onto the field.

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Maybe we should go with an NFL style offense that utilizes that. Like the west coast offense or something along those lines.


I hate to ask but are you retarded? Cam's offense revolves around the power run game & getting the ball downfield vertically in the passing game. Secondly, do you realize how complex the short passing game of the West Coast offense is?

Here's a good breakdown of Cam Cameron's offense which is a concept of Don Coryell's vertical passing offense.

Part I

Part II


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WEST COAST OFFENSE OVERVIEW
Short pass plays replace the running game to control the ball.
Bill Walsh originated with the Cincinatti Bengals and San Francisco 49ers.
Long process for QB to pick-up all the reads and adjustments.
Release all five receivers into the pattern.
QB has progression read up to five receivers.
Take what the defensive gives you.
Make the defense adjust to you.


Replacing the run game with a short passing game in the SEC isn't going to work on the field & it will cost you the ability to recruit one of the state's biggest assets which is running backs. Secondly, you want quarterbacks to learn an even more difficult offensive system then Cam Cameron's.

West Coast Offense Breakdown


This post was edited on 12/24/14 at 10:09 pm
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