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re: So Baylor hired a PR firm to lobby for a playoff spot....
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:41 am to slackster
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:41 am to slackster
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Yeah I hope all the top teams win out and committee gets exposed as a terrible solution to a nonexistent problem.
Under no metric does TCU have a better case than Baylor. Period, end of story.
Every poll has TCU over Baylor.
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:42 am to TOKEN
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NOBODY wants to see Ohio State without a QB play Bama.
that's irrelevant. OSU has earned it if they win this week. the BCS was never this insane
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:44 am to etm512
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That completely ignores the fact that Baylor lost by double digits to a team that TCU beat.
The transitive property doesn't work in football
Common opponents are most definitely factored into football rankings/discussion. If Baylor had a convincing win over TCU this wouldn't be an issue to me, I'd think that they deserve it. But beating TCU by 3 at home doesn't tell anyone that they are the better team.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:46 am to RollTide1987
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Because that influenced the decision of non-sentient computers.
I'm sure your dumbass has already been called out, but the computers had yall behind Okie State. So you're right, Saban didn't influence the computers.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:48 am to BeYou
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I'd argue that Bama, LSU, Oklahoma St all had PR firms working back in 2011.
I doubt very seriously that LSU hired a PR firm in 2011. What would have been the point?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:48 am to Epic Cajun
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Common opponents are most definitely factored into football rankings/discussion.
Agreed
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If Baylor had a convincing win over TCU this wouldn't be an issue to me, I'd think that they deserve it. But beating TCU by 3 at home doesn't tell anyone that they are the better team.
I don't know what better metric you want than a head to head matchup
If Baylor loses this weekend, the point is moot. But right not to me, they beat TCU, each team has one loss, Baylor should be in
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:51 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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This is so much better than the BCS.
It is. Every team has the ability to control their own destiny. If you're in a P5 conference and you don't lose a game, you're going to get in 99.9999% of the time. The same couldn't be said for the BCS. If you don't get selected, then there was a game out there that you should have won to end any sort of debate.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:57 am to TDawg1313
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If you're in a P5 conference and you don't lose a game, you're going to get in 99.9999% of the time.
Don't you mean 80% of the time? After all, there are only four spots for five conferences.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 8:58 am to TDawg1313
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If you're in a P5 conference and you don't lose a game, you're going to get in 99.9999% of the time. The same couldn't be said for the BCS. If you don't get selected, then there was a game out there that you should have won to end any sort of debate.
How many undefeated p5 teams were left out? Auburn?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:01 am to BeYou
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I'd argue that Bama, LSU, Oklahoma St all had PR firms working back in 2011.
yea 13-0 LSU needed a PR firm
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:01 am to trackfan
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Don't you mean 80% of the time? After all, there are only four spots for five conferences.
Has there every been a scenario in history where there was an undefeated team from each of the P5 conferences? That's the only case where someone would get left out in this scenario. And it certainly isn't 20% of the time.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:03 am to TigerBait1127
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How many undefeated p5 teams were left out? Auburn?
Also Cincinnati in 2009. That's off the top of my head, but there might be more.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:03 am to TDawg1313
Instead of a PR firm maybe Baylor should have beat West Virginia. The Big 12 sucks, they dont deserve a team in the playoff.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:05 am to TDawg1313
This is solving nothing. OSU has a chance to go out there and put a whooping on Wisky. They do that, their 2 best wins will be better than TCU's, and prob equal to Baylors.
Baylor's best win is home against TCU by 3. OSU has a road win over a top 10 team by double digits. OSU's win is more impressive to me, and it seems to the committee based on the way OSU has moved up ahead of Baylor. OSU also has the worst loss of the 3 so wtf
The KSU/Wisky debate may be what it comes down to...who is better?
Baylor's best win is home against TCU by 3. OSU has a road win over a top 10 team by double digits. OSU's win is more impressive to me, and it seems to the committee based on the way OSU has moved up ahead of Baylor. OSU also has the worst loss of the 3 so wtf
The KSU/Wisky debate may be what it comes down to...who is better?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:07 am to TOKEN
TCU seems so much better than Baylor. That one loss to Baylor was definitely a game they controlled the entire game and mismanaged the very end and only time they trailed was the end. It's like when LSU beat Bama in 2011 but people still felt Bama was better (I didn't)
I'd like TCU in over Baylor because I believe they are more of a threat in the playoffs. Baylors loss to west v is bad, but not as bad as Ohio st at home to VT.. However, Baylor this past week struggling that hard against Texas Tech was very concerning.
I'd like TCU in over Baylor because I believe they are more of a threat in the playoffs. Baylors loss to west v is bad, but not as bad as Ohio st at home to VT.. However, Baylor this past week struggling that hard against Texas Tech was very concerning.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:08 am to Buckeye06
The committee is going to take into account the Barrett injury and Ohio St gets left out (assuming no upsets)
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:30 am to etm512
Really, the only problem with this is that Baylor is far too late. they should've hired this firm in the preseason to get that Narrative up and running. The fact the Big 12 has already announced they will present Baylor and TCU as co-champs shows that A) they needed a PR firm B) it's too late to hire one now.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:35 am to Baloo
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The fact the Big 12 has already announced they will present Baylor and TCU as co-champs
Do they not have set tie breaker rules for their conference champ for this scenario?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:39 am to TigerBait1127
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How many undefeated deserving teams were left out? Auburn, Utah, TCU
FIFY
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:44 am to TDawg1313
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Has there every been a scenario in history where there was an undefeated team from each of the P5 conferences? That's the only case where someone would get left out in this scenario. And it certainly isn't 20% of the time.
I reject the premise of you question, which is that only five conferences could ever produce a deserving team. IMO, Utah in 2008 and TCU in 2010 were every bit as deserving as Auburn in 2004. All three of those teams finished the season #2 in the final poll, and we'll never know how they might have faired against the #1 team.
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