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re: So Baylor hired a PR firm to lobby for a playoff spot....
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:50 am to etm512
Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:50 am to etm512
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Do they not have set tie breaker rules for their conference champ for this scenario?
The tie breaker is only used to decide who represents the conference in a NYD bowl.
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Posted on 12/2/14 at 9:51 am to TDawg1313
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Also Cincinnati in 2009. That's off the top of my head, but there might be more.
In 2009, both Boise State and TCU would have easily beaten Cincinnati IMO. I gove them credit for running the table, but that Cincinnati team had a lot of close games and was not as strong as their record indicated. If the BCS hadn't removed margin of victory from the computers following the 2001 season, they would have probably finished the regular season ranked behind some one-loss teams.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:06 am to SabiDojo
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Baylor is going to get screwed.
I wouldn't say it's getting screwed when you only have 4 wins against bowl eligible teams (assuming they win this weekend). That's the lowest out of the top 6.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:25 am to SabiDojo
If Baylor had played anyone in non conf this discussion would be over, TCU would have no shot.
This is on Baylor not anyone else if TCU gets in over them even with head to head.
They both have same quality of victories.
This is on Baylor not anyone else if TCU gets in over them even with head to head.
They both have same quality of victories.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:26 am to TDawg1313
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How many undefeated p5 teams were left out? Auburn?
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Also Cincinnati in 2009. That's off the top of my head, but there might be more.
They were in the Big East in 2009.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:26 am to KillerNut9
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I wouldn't say it's getting screwed when you only have 4 wins against bowl eligible teams (assuming they win this weekend). That's the lowest out of the top 6.
Wow. Didn't even realize it was that bad.
OSU would have wins against what 9 after this weekend if they win?
TCU would have 5. FSU 8. Bama 8. Oregon 6.
I don't even think the TCU/Baylor debate will even come into play if all hold serve.
Oregon, Bama, FSU are all certainly in.
Ohio State will go over the Big XII teams.
Also, all I can do is LOL at the fact we're having the same damn debates we've had during the BCS. The playoff solved nothing. Although could you imagine having to decide between Bama/Oregon/OSU/BU/TCU to play FSU (who played a pretty weak schedule and ekked out numerous wins)?
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:36 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:30 am to BayouBengals03
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If only the Big 12 had a title game to straighten all this out...
That's not the Big 12's fault. That's an NCAA rule.
Honestly, if Ohio State wins, I think the committee will put the Buckeyes in to avoid the controversy
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:35 am to tylercsbn9
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Baylor had played anyone in non conf this discussion would be over, TCU would have no shot.
This is on Baylor not anyone else if TCU gets in over them even with head to head.
They both have same quality of victories.
TCU beat TCU?
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Wow. Didn't even realize it was that bad.
OSU would have wins against what 9 after this weekend if they win?
TCU would have 5. FSU 8. Bama 8. Oregon 6.
I don't even think the TCU/Baylor debate will even come into play if all hold serve.
Oregon, Bama, FSU are all certainly in.
Ohio State will go over the Big XII teams.
To be fair, we would be at 5 if we won this weekend.
And we should be at 6 if Buffalo didn't have to cancel their game against Kent State due to that blizzard. They ended the season 5-6.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:38 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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So Baylor hired a PR firm to lobby for a playoff spot....
This is what they turned CFB into. Just a bunch of political bullshite.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:38 am to BeYou
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To be fair, we would be at 5 if we won this weekend.
What would be the 5 wins against bowl eligible teams?
UT
TCU
OU
KSU
and???? Are you assuming Okie State wins?
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:39 am to More beer please
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This is what they turned CFB into. Just a bunch of political bullshite.
It worked to get them into the Big XII.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:40 am to tylercsbn9
If Okie State wins, Oklahoma will fall out of the top 25. Pick your poison 
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:43 am to BeYou
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To be fair, we would be at 5 if we won this weekend.
To be fair, the 8-4 LSU team has 5 against bowl eligable teams. Including 2 over top 15 schools (same as BU). I think it's BU's fault that they aren't going to be in the playoffs.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:44 am to Ostrich
Big 12 doesn't need a title game. They play round robin.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:53 am to etm512
Round robin always = lower conference SOS. 45 wins and 45 losses spread out over 10 teams. The better you do, the worse your opponents' aggregate record is. Add the fact that half their conference is 6-6 or worse, including 4 with losing records...
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:56 am to tylercsbn9
It seems like everyone is forgetting about how the Big 10 got obliterated in September when they played other Power 5 teams. You can't just ignore the full body of work.
Now, all the top teams don't play each other in conference so you get Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State getting to double digit wins by padding up against Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, and a few others.
Michigan State still lost to the only two good teams they played, but hey, they are a top 10 team so good win for the Buckeyes! (And my team has been hanging their hat on a win over MSU.)
Wisconsin is in the same boat. Ranked 11th with 10 wins vs a bunch of middling conference teams and two losses to LSU and Northwestern. Also didn't have to play Michigan State.
Iowa State went freakin 2-9 with 0 Big 12 wins but won at Iowa, who went 7-5.
I just don't see a way you can possibly jump Ohio State over TCU/Baylor should all three win this weekend.
And Baylor's problem is with the Big 12 conference itself who essentially does not acknowledge head to head results.
Now, all the top teams don't play each other in conference so you get Wisconsin, Michigan State, and Ohio State getting to double digit wins by padding up against Illinois, Northwestern, Maryland, Rutgers, Purdue, Iowa, Nebraska, Minnesota, Michigan, and a few others.
Michigan State still lost to the only two good teams they played, but hey, they are a top 10 team so good win for the Buckeyes! (And my team has been hanging their hat on a win over MSU.)
Wisconsin is in the same boat. Ranked 11th with 10 wins vs a bunch of middling conference teams and two losses to LSU and Northwestern. Also didn't have to play Michigan State.
Iowa State went freakin 2-9 with 0 Big 12 wins but won at Iowa, who went 7-5.
I just don't see a way you can possibly jump Ohio State over TCU/Baylor should all three win this weekend.
And Baylor's problem is with the Big 12 conference itself who essentially does not acknowledge head to head results.
This post was edited on 12/2/14 at 10:58 am
Posted on 12/2/14 at 10:59 am to bags03
If Wisconsin didnt frick up against Northwestern they would easily be in the top 4. That is assuming they beat Ohio St.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:25 am to bags03
Here are the power 5 opponents the Big 12 played:
Won:
Tennessee (6-6)
Iowa (7-5)
Maryland (7-5)
Minnesota (8-4)
Lost:
Florida State (12-0)
Alabama (11-1)
UCLA (9-3)
Duke (9-3)
Auburn (8-4)
Arkansas (6-6)
If your signature nonconference win is Buffalo, you'd better go unbeaten.
Won:
Tennessee (6-6)
Iowa (7-5)
Maryland (7-5)
Minnesota (8-4)
Lost:
Florida State (12-0)
Alabama (11-1)
UCLA (9-3)
Duke (9-3)
Auburn (8-4)
Arkansas (6-6)
If your signature nonconference win is Buffalo, you'd better go unbeaten.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:36 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
This is pathetic. Schedule someone in September and you won't have to pay a PR firm in December. If the pathetic NC schedule doesn't eliminate them, this pathetic attempt to gain a spot should.
Posted on 12/2/14 at 11:41 am to tylercsbn9
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What would be the 5 wins against bowl eligible teams?
UT
TCU
OU
KSU
and???? Are you assuming Okie State wins?
misread the original post. you are right we will be at 4 with a win this weekend.
If we are comparing Baylor to TCU the decision should be based of head to head result. Our SoS are marginal at best. we each played 9 conference games, smu, and a fcs team. the lone difference in our SoS is them playing vs. Minnesota and Baylor playing at Buffalo. No doubt their SoS is more difficult but does that marginally tougher SoS outweigh a head to head result?
If we are comparing Baylor, TCU, and OSU, then there is a different criteria that needs to be used to determining the best of the 3.
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