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re: The Oregonian girl who was going to commit suicide because of her illness...
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:16 am to lsunurse
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:16 am to lsunurse
Gotcha. I was just trying to point out that I feel abortion is different from this because it affects someone else besides the person making the decision. That's why, while I am against both issues, I feel one should not be legal and the other I dont have an issue with giving someone that choice.
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Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:20 am to drunkenpunkin
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I'm of the opinion that even suffering has a purpose and those that are dying still have something to give. Cutting life short is like cheating. You're not giving or receiving all that you are supposed to.
That's how I feel too. Every day (whether it is a day full of suffering or not) that you wake up is a blessing. And that should be something we cherish and fight for.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:29 am to Clyde Tipton
Good for her. She took control of the last thing she could, and didn't allow cancer to kill her. She went out like a boss.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:31 am to AUCE05
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This post was edited on 1/14/16 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:32 am to Negative Nomad
frick you. You have no clue what she was going through.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:38 am to AUCE05
And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:40 am to RollTide1987
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And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
shite like this is why I left the church years ago, and what keeps me from going back.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:40 am to Sentrius
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You gotta love holier than thou religious fire eaters that shite on someone's personal choice that does not affect them at all.
It effects me dearly when a fellow human being dies in a state of mortal sin. I will spend my evening prayers praying for her soul.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:46 am to Clyde Tipton
I seriously hope none of her family or friends somehow find this thread one day
If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all but so many try to be cool on this site they say some downright mean and hateful things
Just don't post anything
If you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all but so many try to be cool on this site they say some downright mean and hateful things
Just don't post anything
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 1:01 am
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:50 am to RollTide1987
frick you you worthless stupid sister-fricking gump.
I can't wait until we beat your ignorant asses on Saturday.
I can't wait until we beat your ignorant asses on Saturday.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:53 am to RollTide1987
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And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
I would say that is between her and God. I don't think any one of else on this side of Heaven could even make such a claim with 100% certainty.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:55 am to Jim Rockford
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And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
shite like this is why I left the church years ago, and what keeps me from going back.
Amen Jim, too many judgemental closed minded types for my liking.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:58 am to StormTiger
Not all of us Christians are judgemental like him
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:59 am to Walt OReilly
Yeah don't let some bad examples turn you away from God.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 12:59 am to RollTide1987
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And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:01 am to lsunurse
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Yeah don't let some bad examples turn you away from God.
I didn't say I was turned away from spirituality, just formalised religion. But no point in turning this into a religious debate, I'm happy for the lady being able to end her life the way she chose.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 1:03 am
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:07 am to lsunurse
quote:quote:I would say that is between her and God. I don't think any one of else on this side of Heaven could even make such a claim with 100% certainty.
And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
This. No one can know who goes to Hell or not. Suicide may not be considered a "mortal sin" if the person was mentally ill or not thinking clearly. Yes, she seemed to have planned it out thoroughly but she could have been in pain the whole time and was getting desperate. Who knows.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:26 am to Rouge
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Not trying to be obtuse, but why couldnt this girl just stockpile and OD on pills like so many others choose?
Because most states will prosecute those who assist suicides. The end stages for brain cancer may also prevent you from carrying out your own suicide if you wait too long.
Brain Hospice
I remember seeing a documentary on PBS about people dying from brain cancer. One patient was an old spinster who basically died alone. She seemed at peace, listened to classical music and slept a lot. The entire side of her head was caved in and she had almost no motor control. The second patient was a middle aged man, married with two young children. As the disease progressed, his wife became openly hostile toward him as if everything were his fault. You could see the stress they were under, especially him having to put up with his bitchy wife. I thought at the time I would take the gas pipe in a heartbeat if I had to go thru his ordeal.
Posted on 11/3/14 at 1:35 am to Jet12
The Catechism of the Catholic Church teaches:
Committing murder is a mortal sin, but is forgivable if one is truly sorry and confesses. Committing suicide is murder, but the problem is that you are killing yourself and thus have no means to confess your sins once you are dead. You die having completely turned your back on God. There is no alternative. As I said...I will be praying for her soul. Perhaps it will be granted mercy.
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2324 Intentional euthanasia, whatever its forms or motives, is murder. It is gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator.
2277 Whatever its motives and means, direct euthanasia consists in putting an end to the lives of handicapped, sick, or dying persons. It is morally unacceptable.
Thus an act or omission which, of itself or by intention, causes death in order to eliminate suffering constitutes a murder gravely contrary to the dignity of the human person and to the respect due to the living God, his Creator. The error of judgment into which one can fall in good faith does not change the nature of this murderous act, which must always be forbidden and excluded.
Committing murder is a mortal sin, but is forgivable if one is truly sorry and confesses. Committing suicide is murder, but the problem is that you are killing yourself and thus have no means to confess your sins once you are dead. You die having completely turned your back on God. There is no alternative. As I said...I will be praying for her soul. Perhaps it will be granted mercy.
This post was edited on 11/3/14 at 1:36 am
Posted on 11/3/14 at 2:03 am to RollTide1987
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And we now have no idea the pain her soul will receive in Hell. I know she was in pain but suicide is suicide. She can't repent and will spend eternity outside of God's grace.
You are such a fricking idiot! 
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