- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Taking in foreign Ebola patients...
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:21 am to CptBengal
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:21 am to CptBengal
quote:The Federal Government has rules for this. I don't see where Maine or New Jersey do. It's the Maine State Police going to enforce the quarantine.
look up medical quarantine. You're wrong.
1
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:23 am to MrLarson
quote:30 / day is something we could do within a couple of weeks and would put a good dent in the 55K number.
Fast forward 1 month and those numbers are double. The CDC thinks there could be 55,000 cases by January. 30 people a day isn't going to do jack.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:24 am to FT
quote:
The Federal Government has rules for this. I don't see where Maine or New Jersey do
So do the states.
just google it up. The actual debate has actually been addressed by numerous legal scholars that think she doesnt have a chance in hell of legally trying to fight it.
your proggie faux outrage is pathetic.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:27 am to CptBengal
Maine only has laws on quarantines for animals. The Maine State Police are the ones enforcing the quarantine, which in Maine is not legal. If it was the FBI, you'd be on to something.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:27 am to CptBengal
quote:Medical Quarantine laws require a "reasonable plan" and a medical emergency. NJ laws (and I imagine others) usually require a court order and for the quarantine to be the least restrictive necessary.
look up medical quarantine. You're wrong.
Since Christie didn't consult with any medical professional or have any solid plan in place he likely fails on all of these counts. Never mind that the nurse was asymptomatic and on her way to Maine when they began her detainment and therefore would not have been a risk to anyone in NJ.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:30 am to mmcgrath
quote:
Medical Quarantine laws require a "reasonable plan" and a medical emergency. NJ laws (and I imagine others) usually require a court order and for the quarantine to be the least restrictive necessary.
Since Christie didn't consult with any medical professional or have any solid plan in place he likely fails on all of these counts. Never mind that the nurse was asymptomatic and on her way to Maine when they began her detainment and therefore would not have been a risk to anyone in NJ.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:30 am to mmcgrath
quote:
mmcgrath
have you answered my earlier question yet?
please do....
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:30 am to mmcgrath
quote:
I actually think this is a great idea
"I figured - I don't know the guy, but he needs a kidney and I have 2, so..."
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:39 am to mmcgrath
I bet mmcgrath's legal argument (parroted from the Obama administration and its lackeys) will fail in federal court. We'll see soon enough.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 11:51 am to CptBengal
quote:The question where you said "let them die"? I didn't think that deserved an answer. If you haven't discovered the justification for building facilities in West Africa yet, then you really are just willfully ignoring what you hear.
have you answered my earlier question yet?
please do....
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:03 pm to mmcgrath
Once we cure them, I'm sure we will send them back home. Right? Or did they just win the immigration lottery too?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:08 pm to CadesCove
quote:Jesus, some people are so paranoid about immigration. I am sure that they will want to go back to their family after spending a few weeks in a bio-containment unit vomiting and defecating. These aren't people expressing the least bit of interest in coming to America, they just want to get better.
Once we cure them, I'm sure we will send them back home. Right? Or did they just win the immigration lottery too?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:20 pm to mmcgrath
OK, just making sure you favor repatriating them back into the hot zone after curing them.
I just don't see the point in wasting all that taxpayer money shuttling people back and forth to the US, and taking all the risks that entails. If we want to make a difference, we should invest that money in facilities & training, in Africa. Then they get what they need, we don't get what we don't want, and everybody is better off. Why is everyone in such a hurry to bring this plague here?
I just don't see the point in wasting all that taxpayer money shuttling people back and forth to the US, and taking all the risks that entails. If we want to make a difference, we should invest that money in facilities & training, in Africa. Then they get what they need, we don't get what we don't want, and everybody is better off. Why is everyone in such a hurry to bring this plague here?
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:36 pm to FT
quote:
Because you can't keep someone locked up by state order for 21 days if they haven't committed a crime.
We should go do some fishing for reds and trout down in QUARANTINE BAY.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:50 pm to mmcgrath
What I don't get is why this woman would not want to quarantine herself? It's 21 fricking days. As a volunteer at a hospital for Katrina evacuees I got TB. I was under a medical quarantine for two weeks once. I was assured I wouldn't be able to pass my illness to anyone because I had no cough, fever, etc, but they wanted to be safe. It was no problem for me. Why the hell would I want to walk around even if there was a remote chance I could infect someone? I had to go to a state clinic every day for 1 1/2 years to have antibiotics administered under supervision. I never once thought my civil rights were violated.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:57 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:
Let's discuss...
Easy
We take NONE of those frickers
Posted on 10/29/14 at 12:58 pm to Al Dante
quote:
What I don't get is why this woman would not want to quarantine herself?
Selfishness extraordinaire.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:01 pm to CadesCove
quote:
If we want to make a difference, we should invest that money in facilities & training, in Africa.
Exactly, especially since the CDC chief said it was imperative to not limit travel to and from Africa. He said a travel ban would lessen the effort to control the disease in Africa.
Is he now on the bandwagon to bring those infected people here? shite, that's like finding a ticking nuclear bomb over there and saying "let's bring it to the US to defuse it".
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:07 pm to Meauxjeaux
quote:
Let's discuss...
How about we send ppl over there, build the treatment centers over there and let them deal with it. We will yake care of our workers if they return home sick and any traveler that gets sick while they are here.
Posted on 10/29/14 at 1:46 pm to CadesCove
quote:Absolutely.
OK, just making sure you favor repatriating them back into the hot zone after curing them.
quote:I think this is where the message is getting lost. Our health care professionals are much more protected in treating patients here rather than there, therefore there is less risk of spreading it in the US.
I just don't see the point in wasting all that taxpayer money shuttling people back and forth to the US, and taking all the risks that entails. If we want to make a difference, we should invest that money in facilities & training, in Africa. Then they get what they need, we don't get what we don't want, and everybody is better off. Why is everyone in such a hurry to bring this plague here?
In the Dallas case the exposure was much greater as Duncan was a walk-in and therefore there was a significant period before diagnosis and the staff was not well prepared for that articular instance. HCP's like the doctor in NYC and Ms. Hickox (sp?) are much more likely to have Ebola if they are spending time in West Africa.
Finally, if we are a major contributor to fixing this thing in West Africa, with thousands of people successfully treated by the US, we will have a large vocal community to fight against the anti-American rhetoric that is slowly taking over the region. Also, the US will be better prepared to handle any homegrown bio-terrorism and / or natural outbreak.
This post was edited on 10/29/14 at 1:48 pm
Page 2 of 5
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News