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re: A Featured RB
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:20 pm to sicboy
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:20 pm to sicboy
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It's the RBBC and CSP's distaste for the running game that makes his stats not as appealing
exactly, and situationally, he gets the shite end of the stick as compared to the other backs
still has a 5.7 YPC and no stat will show how he opens up plays down the field
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Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:20 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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You can't really judge ingram that way...it's not fair to him.
Stats are the only thing that has this board in heat over Ingram. Dude gets a big game against the leagues worst defense and everybody is jizzing quoting stats.
Carolina has the 5th worst rushing defense in the league. Who here is willing to take the bet that Ingram will have back-to-back hundred yard games?
I didn't think so.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:20 pm to LSUFreek
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In 43 career games, he's gone over 50 just 17 times.
39.5% of the games
In 18 career games, Khiry has gone over 50 just 6 times
33.3% of the games
Color me even more unimpressed
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I'm with Bill Parcells. Khiry is a big, strong, fast back who can break a long one and who should be the starter.
118 carries - 1 carry 30+ yard. Lightning meet bottle.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:23 pm to LSUFreek
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Khiry is a big, strong, fast back who can break a long one and who should be the starter.
eww no
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:24 pm to htran90
Khiry Robinson probably would have had a good night last night if he had 24 carries, too. But Mark Ingram really did look quick, confident and powerful and he's looked that way since the second half of last season.
The Philly playoff game was certainly no easy task, but there was Mark Ingram being the guy we needed him to be. Running hard, gaining positive yards, controlling the clock.
I just don't see how Robinson is better. Robinson is good and complimentary, but not better. That's JMO.
The Philly playoff game was certainly no easy task, but there was Mark Ingram being the guy we needed him to be. Running hard, gaining positive yards, controlling the clock.
I just don't see how Robinson is better. Robinson is good and complimentary, but not better. That's JMO.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:24 pm to htran90
I'll take Bill Parcells in my corner. Who you guys got?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:25 pm to LSUFreek
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Who you guys got?
Actual results on the field.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:27 pm to htran90
Chances of him going back to back is slim. Not many RBs have back to back 100 games when playing sunday->thursday. Only Foster all season, and the company around him aren't random scrubs either.
Wanna know what RBs have hit 100+ yards rushing on TNF?
1. Marshawn Lynch - 110 yards (week after: 36 yards)
2. Eddie Lacy - 105 yards (previous sunday game: 48 yards)
3. Arian Foster - 109 yards (previous sunday game: 157 yards)
4. Chris Ivory: 107 yards (previous sunday game: 7 yards)
5. Ronnie Hillman: 109 yards (previous sunday game: 73 yards)
So 5/8 TNF games have had a 100 yard rusher.
Only 5 players/teams have gone 100 yards on TNF out of 16 teams.
Wanna know what RBs have hit 100+ yards rushing on TNF?
1. Marshawn Lynch - 110 yards (week after: 36 yards)
2. Eddie Lacy - 105 yards (previous sunday game: 48 yards)
3. Arian Foster - 109 yards (previous sunday game: 157 yards)
4. Chris Ivory: 107 yards (previous sunday game: 7 yards)
5. Ronnie Hillman: 109 yards (previous sunday game: 73 yards)
So 5/8 TNF games have had a 100 yard rusher.
Only 5 players/teams have gone 100 yards on TNF out of 16 teams.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:27 pm to The Sad Banana
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I just don't see how Robinson is better. Robinson is good and complimentary, but not better. That's JMO.
do you wanna compare backs on the same time scale respective to their NFL Careers?
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:28 pm to LSUFreek
Watch out, your delusion is showing
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:29 pm to bamabenny
I'll take the bet Ingram goes for 100+ if Sean Payton promises to let him rush over 20 times. 
Knowing CSP, he'll come out and rush ingram 7 times and let Brees throw it 52 times.
Knowing CSP, he'll come out and rush ingram 7 times and let Brees throw it 52 times.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:32 pm to Chad504boy
I mean, I guess so. But for this discussion, I kinda figure we were talking about this year when Ingram is healthy.
I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. I'm happy with both guys' performance so far.
I don't want to sound like I'm complaining. I'm happy with both guys' performance so far.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:34 pm to The Sad Banana
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Khiry Robinson probably would have had a good night last night if he had 24 carries, too. But Mark Ingram really did look quick, confident and powerful and he's looked that way since the second half of last season.
The Philly playoff game was certainly no easy task, but there was Mark Ingram being the guy we needed him to be. Running hard, gaining positive yards, controlling the clock.
I just don't see how Robinson is better. Robinson is good and complimentary, but not better. That's JMO.
Saints fans better get used to Khiry (who is a pretty good back) because Ingram is gone after the last game this season.
Anyone that thinks he's sticking around the Saints organization after this year is fooling himself. He will be in Atlanta, Seattle or Baltimore next year.
Is there any reason for him to stay? I'm all ears. It just doesn't seem like he is particularly happy with the Saints organization or the coaching staff's scheme and play calling.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:36 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Is there any reason for him to stay? I'm all ears. It just doesn't seem like he is particularly happy with the Saints organization or the coaching staff's scheme and play calling.
He doesn't seem this way off the field, but I guess he could be faking.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:36 pm to The Sad Banana
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Khiry Robinson probably would have had a good night last night if he had 24 carries, too. But Mark Ingram really did look quick, confident and powerful and he's looked that way since the second half of last season.
The Philly playoff game was certainly no easy task, but there was Mark Ingram being the guy we needed him to be. Running hard, gaining positive yards, controlling the clock.
I just don't see how Robinson is better. Robinson is good and complimentary, but not better. That's JMO.
For the sake of debate, I'm busting all the Ingram lovers balls over semantics. Both are quality backs.
Reality is Mark is finally turning into a good back from the end of the season continuing into this year. He's not consistent enough to be a feature back, imo. The Saints need a Robinson for the next game when Ingram decides to rush for 16 yards against a good defense.
I do really believe Robinson has more acceleration in the hole, similar to Doug Martin, thus I think Robinson would be, in the long run, the better back for this offense, especially with Lorig in the lineup. But that's JMO.
Either way, I think we have a good backfield, if we can stay healthy. I personally can't count on Ingram consistently having "good games" so I wish Robinson would get healthy soon.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:38 pm to LSUFreek
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He's not consistent enough to be a feature back, imo.
Lol
Hard to be consistent when you're sharing carries
This post was edited on 10/27/14 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:38 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
quote:This could actually be a likely scenario. The money might not even be there even if they wanted to keep him.
Saints fans better get used to Khiry (who is a pretty good back) because Ingram is gone after the last game this season.
Anyone that thinks he's sticking around the Saints organization after this year is fooling himself. He will be in Atlanta, Seattle or Baltimore next year.
Is there any reason for him to stay? I'm all ears. It just doesn't seem like he is particularly happy with the Saints organization or the coaching staff's scheme and play calling.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:41 pm to The Sad Banana
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The money might not even be there even if they wanted to keep him.
Exactly. Payton is never going to run an offense that caters to Ingram's style and skillset and he believes all running backs are just interchangeable parts to be mixed, matched and traded. Saints aren't going to give Ingram that all-important, big second contract; so, he'll go elsewhere.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:42 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Saints fans better get used to Khiry (who is a pretty good back) because Ingram is gone after the last game this season.
I agree, unless he feels loyal. Which I don't think he will be considering 75% of the fanbase still don't have his back it seems.
They don't give him the props, even after a big game, but the second he has a bad game...shite hits the fan quick.
Posted on 10/27/14 at 3:42 pm to PurpleandGold Motown
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Saints fans better get used to Khiry (who is a pretty good back) because Ingram is gone after the last game this season.
I think almost any undfa scrub in this RBBC offense could easily re-produce 50 yards 17 times out of 43 games.
You act like I should be teary-eyed that Ingram might go waste someone else's money next year.
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