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There is no freedom of religion unless there's freedom from it
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:14 pm
Want more evidence that Antonin Scalia is a dishonest cleric in Supreme Court justice garb?
Scalia attacks the separation of church and state
Scalia probably knows, as should any school kid, that language in the Bill of Rights which would have merely prevented the establishment of a state religion was VOTED DOWN in favor of a much broader prohibition: that Congress should make no law RESPECTING THE ESTABLISHMENT thereof. In other words, any law that would intentionally favor one religion or no religion is PROHIBITED.
Scalia attacks the separation of church and state
Scalia probably knows, as should any school kid, that language in the Bill of Rights which would have merely prevented the establishment of a state religion was VOTED DOWN in favor of a much broader prohibition: that Congress should make no law RESPECTING THE ESTABLISHMENT thereof. In other words, any law that would intentionally favor one religion or no religion is PROHIBITED.
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Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:15 pm to Rex
quote:
any law that would intentionally favor one religion or no religion is PROHIBITED.
Is it even possible for everything to remain so completely neutral that no one gets pissed?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:17 pm to Rex
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:22 pm to Rex
Didn't read, voted down dog boy
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:22 pm to Rex
He didn't say there should be a state religion.
Answer the question he posed Rex.
He is exactly right. If we want a more secular political system we can pass an amendment. A logical thing to do and central to his premise the Constitution is not a living document and I am glad it is not.
What is wrong with his position in your opinion Rex?
Answer the question he posed Rex.
quote:
“Our [the Supreme Court’s] latest take on the subject, which is quite different from previous takes, is that the state must be neutral, not only between religions, but between religion and nonreligion,” Scalia said on Wednesday, according to The Washington Times. “That’s just a lie. Where do you get the notion that this is all unconstitutional? You can only believe that if you believe in a morphing Constitution.”
If Americans want a more secular political system that guarantees those distinctions, they can “enact that by statute,” Scalia said, “but to say that’s what the Constitution requires is utterly absurd.”
He is exactly right. If we want a more secular political system we can pass an amendment. A logical thing to do and central to his premise the Constitution is not a living document and I am glad it is not.
What is wrong with his position in your opinion Rex?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 5:57 pm to Rex
Down vote off [on]
Posted on 10/19/14 at 6:10 pm to Rex
No one is forcing you to attend a church or even say a prayer.
But you might want to try it, it just may do you some good.
But you might want to try it, it just may do you some good.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 6:22 pm to Rex
quote:You left off "prohibiting the free exercise thereof" clause.
There is no freedom of religion unless there's freedom from it
Why?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 6:51 pm to Rex
If a religion includes a duty to prosteletize, then the only way to be free from it is to ban it.
These are incompatible.
These are incompatible.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:23 pm to Rex
quote:No.
There is no freedom of religion unless there's freedom from it
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.
That's it.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:26 pm to Rex
Environmentalism is a form of religion IMO.
Does 'religion' have to involve a deity?
Does 'religion' have to involve a deity?
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:32 pm to Rex
Freedom from religion implies you have the right to not ever have to encounter religion in your day to day life, which is neither realistic nor the intention of the first amendment.
Everyone has the freedom to not practice religion and be free from theocratic legislation, but you aren't guaranteed the right to never be exposed to it.
Everyone has the freedom to not practice religion and be free from theocratic legislation, but you aren't guaranteed the right to never be exposed to it.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:49 pm to Rex
The Constitution prohibits a state religion to protect the state and prohibits the state from persecuting the individual.
Individuals are being persecuted all over the place.
Individuals are being persecuted all over the place.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 7:52 pm to Rex
His position is correct, Rex. If you didn't have such a doggy boner for Scalia you'd see his point.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 8:26 pm to Rex
I'm with you on everything, except religion..
Thus, I must downvote.
Thus, I must downvote.
Posted on 10/19/14 at 8:32 pm to Rex
You really are a trash poster, and I'm not religious.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:20 am to Rex
quote:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
Selective reading much?
Posted on 10/20/14 at 6:24 am to Rex
Congress definitely has no issue making laws prohibiting the free exercise of religion.
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:29 am to Rex
quote:
Antonin Scalia is a dishonest cleric
REX MUST DIE
Posted on 10/20/14 at 7:59 am to Rex
Freedom? There is no freedom in Government unless there is freedom from it.
Should just leave Religion out of it, Rex. "Congress shall make NO LAW...". Progressive ideology manipulates Law to change Religion. Unintended consequences. Live and learn.
Should just leave Religion out of it, Rex. "Congress shall make NO LAW...". Progressive ideology manipulates Law to change Religion. Unintended consequences. Live and learn.
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