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re: Arrow: Season 3 Thread
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:46 am to JasonMason
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:46 am to JasonMason
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Hilarious that everyone accepts that Felicity can commandeer spy satellites from her iPhone but are hesitant to believe that she can pilot that super suit (that she helped design).
Not really. Ray had trouble piloting it at first.
Felicity gains the abilities of other heroes through coitus. That's how she's able to pilot Ray's suit. Next season she will be an expert with a bow.
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:51 am to Fewer Kilometers
This season felt lackluster and the plot devices weren't executed very well from Merlyn drugging Thea into killing Sara, to Oliver joining the League a lot of it just seemed very contrived.
I don't know if its because I binged watched the first two seasons and watched the third one on a weekly basis but I'm hoping season four can return to the form they show was in during season two.
I don't know if its because I binged watched the first two seasons and watched the third one on a weekly basis but I'm hoping season four can return to the form they show was in during season two.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:51 am to Bamatab
quote:not to mention AK is working on Supergirl as well.
Hopefully they'll figure out a way to better manage all of their projects, especially now that they will have another show kicking off next season.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:52 am to constant cough
Many of the things they did were good ideas but they were just executed so poorly.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:17 am to UMRealist
For me the biggest issue with this season was how they seemed to go back and forth between Starling and Nanda Parbat like it was next door. All this and Ollie is broke as a joke.
The next issue is that absolute pussification of the League members. Shittiest. Assassins. Ever.
The ending of the season finale felt like the ending of the series. The explosion in Ray's office wasn't enough but the comment to Diggle about wearing a mask was intriguing.
John Stewart Diggle... that needs to happen.
The next issue is that absolute pussification of the League members. Shittiest. Assassins. Ever.
The ending of the season finale felt like the ending of the series. The explosion in Ray's office wasn't enough but the comment to Diggle about wearing a mask was intriguing.
John Stewart Diggle... that needs to happen.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:23 am to PsychTiger
quote:
Felicity gains the abilities of other heroes through coitus. That's how she's able to pilot Ray's suit. Next season she will be an expert with a bow.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:24 am to Bard
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For me the biggest issue with this season was how they seemed to go back and forth between Starling and Nanda Parbat like it was next door.
Agreed. That became really silly.
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The next issue is that absolute pussification of the League members. Shittiest. Assassins. Ever.
Agreed. They should of had less henchmen and more Ra's fighting and fricking people up.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:04 am to UMRealist
From what I'm reading from the CW Upfronts, it sounds like Ray is presumed dead after that explosion. When in fact...
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 11:08 am to Fewer Kilometers
shocker
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:39 pm to UMRealist
Well ray HAD to stay back so he most likely controlled it remotely.
Felicity also helped build and design it and has been capable of crazy tech stuff so it's not at all unthinkable.
Both make sense
Felicity also helped build and design it and has been capable of crazy tech stuff so it's not at all unthinkable.
Both make sense
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:00 pm to LosLobos111
I just rewatched. Has anybody pointed out that the boat Oliver looked at in the end was from Coast City?
Posted on 5/14/15 at 5:29 pm to UMRealist
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For me the biggest issue with this season was how they seemed to go back and forth between Starling and Nanda Parbat like it was next door.
Agreed. That became really silly.
worse than that to me was the china flashback sequence/b story thread, it constantly felt like it was just getting in the way.
I think there is a very obvious quality difference in season 1 and 3 w/ 2 being in the middle.
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Agreed. They should of had less henchmen and more Ra's fighting and fricking people up.
yup, so much bad writing, made my brain hurt.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 6:41 pm to Bamatab
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That was the only thing that I really liked about the episode. I'm with Nyssa in that it had to Malcolm's plan all along to manipulate all of the events of the whole season so that he could become the new Ra's. I wish he would've just smiled when she accused him of it.
The rest of the episode (and the overall season in general) was pretty meh.
My thoughts exaclty
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:03 pm to Cap Crunch
Finally watched it. Whole thing was one big fat meh. From Ep 1 to now. I don't know how they went from nailing the first two seasons to this.
Ollie is a moron. We have seen, for 2 seasons mind you, him learn lessons about needing to talk to people for him to be successful, and he never does.
Laurel without being BC is an empty character. You can tell having to pigeon hole Felicity with Ollie, because fat women on Twitter begged for it to be so, has completely changed their direction for Laurel. I actually liked her a bit here and there, I think she could make the show a lot better if they would dump Felicity for her as the main love interest.
Also, how far ahead do they shoot episodes? Arrow was way behind The Flash because of the writer mess up, and is now somehow back in front. How did Oliver get out of Nanda Parbat to help Barry anyway?
This entire season has felt like a giant "frick you' from the writers and show runners. They became drunk off of their success after 2 seasons of changing DC characters and storylines. Ended up biting off more than they could chew. It seriously feels like they got 2/3 of the way through the season and suddenly realized they couldnt come close to finishing everything they wanted. So they threw it all together haphazardly hoping it would end up making a tiny bit of sense at the end. Should have done HIVE this season. LOA should have been saved for the last season of the show. You can't really get any bigger than Ras with their CGI budget.
Nice of them to show Sarah being raised from the dead on Arrow. The character at least deserved that. Oh wait, they didn't, screw that.
I could pick apart this season for 10 paragraphs if I wanted. I feel like they wasted my Wednesday nights for the past 8 or 9 months. I will keep watching, they have that much goodwill built up from the first two seasons. However, season 4 better bring it!
Two last things.
A) Can we get some damn action/comedy and lose a chunk of the fricking drama? It's been nothing but talking for 90% of the last 6 episodes. Diggle mad, felicity sad, laurel stupid, Malcolm sly, Ollie also stupid, Thea dead, Roy, dead/gone, Lance stupid. Why does CW think everything HAS TO BE DRAMATIC in a lovey wovey kind of way? This show has moved way past the need for that. With so much fan interest it's just getting in the way. Stahp it! Now! Let there be a love interest, but don't make us hate her for 3 months because she wants to bitch, moan, and cry at the drop of a hat. Felicity was way happier with Ray. Let them ride off into the sunset.
B) They said before this season that we would start seeing Ollie make some funy quips in combat. He would start reflecting the Green Arrow characteristics from the comics in the show. How many did we end up getting? 1 quip, fricking 1. In like episode 5 when he went to get Thea, and he made the joke about the gun. That's it.
Oh and the closest thing we ever got to them calling Ollie "Green Arrow", was when Thea called herself Red Arrow. This whole season was about identity. Then He ends the season without one.
I am exasperated if you can't tell.
Ollie is a moron. We have seen, for 2 seasons mind you, him learn lessons about needing to talk to people for him to be successful, and he never does.
Laurel without being BC is an empty character. You can tell having to pigeon hole Felicity with Ollie, because fat women on Twitter begged for it to be so, has completely changed their direction for Laurel. I actually liked her a bit here and there, I think she could make the show a lot better if they would dump Felicity for her as the main love interest.
Also, how far ahead do they shoot episodes? Arrow was way behind The Flash because of the writer mess up, and is now somehow back in front. How did Oliver get out of Nanda Parbat to help Barry anyway?
This entire season has felt like a giant "frick you' from the writers and show runners. They became drunk off of their success after 2 seasons of changing DC characters and storylines. Ended up biting off more than they could chew. It seriously feels like they got 2/3 of the way through the season and suddenly realized they couldnt come close to finishing everything they wanted. So they threw it all together haphazardly hoping it would end up making a tiny bit of sense at the end. Should have done HIVE this season. LOA should have been saved for the last season of the show. You can't really get any bigger than Ras with their CGI budget.
Nice of them to show Sarah being raised from the dead on Arrow. The character at least deserved that. Oh wait, they didn't, screw that.
I could pick apart this season for 10 paragraphs if I wanted. I feel like they wasted my Wednesday nights for the past 8 or 9 months. I will keep watching, they have that much goodwill built up from the first two seasons. However, season 4 better bring it!
Two last things.
A) Can we get some damn action/comedy and lose a chunk of the fricking drama? It's been nothing but talking for 90% of the last 6 episodes. Diggle mad, felicity sad, laurel stupid, Malcolm sly, Ollie also stupid, Thea dead, Roy, dead/gone, Lance stupid. Why does CW think everything HAS TO BE DRAMATIC in a lovey wovey kind of way? This show has moved way past the need for that. With so much fan interest it's just getting in the way. Stahp it! Now! Let there be a love interest, but don't make us hate her for 3 months because she wants to bitch, moan, and cry at the drop of a hat. Felicity was way happier with Ray. Let them ride off into the sunset.
B) They said before this season that we would start seeing Ollie make some funy quips in combat. He would start reflecting the Green Arrow characteristics from the comics in the show. How many did we end up getting? 1 quip, fricking 1. In like episode 5 when he went to get Thea, and he made the joke about the gun. That's it.
Oh and the closest thing we ever got to them calling Ollie "Green Arrow", was when Thea called herself Red Arrow. This whole season was about identity. Then He ends the season without one.
I am exasperated if you can't tell.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 10:20 pm
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:20 pm to VaBamaMan
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B) They said before the show we would start seeing Ollie make some quips in combat. That he would start reflecting the Green Arrow character in the comics. How many did we get? 1 quip, fricking 1. In like episode 5 when he went to get Thea, and he made the joke about the gun.
I agree with everything in this.
Arrow went from must wait up and watch in my Hulu at midnite when the new show would appear to ...meh...I'll get to it tomorrow.
It really took a nose dive this season...and was frustrating to watch.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:21 pm to VaBamaMan
I agree with everything you said.
I also hope they learned their lesson with Ra's. Matt Nable did a fine job in his portrayal but the way he was used was really bad. Arrow is best when there is a lingering singular presence presenting Oliver with an enormous challenge (i.e. Slade, Malcolm). Can't keep having nameless incompetent henchmen do all the work while the main villain just walks around talking. Even if you have to make him (the main villain) appear less, make his appearances count more.
quote:I'm hoping there will be a significant (6 months - year) time jump starting in season 4. Hopefully Oliver took that time and has been happy and relaxed a bit and the show begins to take a less serious tone. Less batman and more flash (to an extent). The show desperately needed less bitching. Seasons 1 and 2 the only person that bitched was Thea (and Laurel to an extent). This season it was EVERYBODY.
A) Can we get some damn action/comedy and lose a chunk of the fricking drama? It's been nothing but talking for 90% of the last 6 episodes. Figgle mad, felicity sad, laurel stupid, Malcolm sly, Ollie also stupid, Thea dead, Roy, dead/gone, Lance stupid. Why does CW think everything HAS TO BE DRAMATIC in a lovey wovey kind of way? This show has moved way past the need for that. With so much fan interest it's just getting in the way. Stahp it! Now! Let there be a love interest, but don't make us hate her for 3 months because she wants to birch, moan, and cry at the drop of a hat. Felicity was way happier with Ray. Let them ride off into the sunset.
I also hope they learned their lesson with Ra's. Matt Nable did a fine job in his portrayal but the way he was used was really bad. Arrow is best when there is a lingering singular presence presenting Oliver with an enormous challenge (i.e. Slade, Malcolm). Can't keep having nameless incompetent henchmen do all the work while the main villain just walks around talking. Even if you have to make him (the main villain) appear less, make his appearances count more.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:25 pm to VaBamaMan
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Laurel without being BC is an empty character. You can tell having to pigeon hole Felicity with Ollie, because fat women on Twitter begged for it to be so, has completely changed their direction for Laurel. I actually liked her a bit here and there, I think she could make the show a lot better if they would dump Felicity for her as the main love interest.
The Felicity mistake may well haunt the writers until the end if they don't get their head out their asses and correct course soon.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:33 pm to Murray
Olicity forever!
Posted on 5/14/15 at 10:48 pm to UMRealist
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Arrow is best when there is a lingering singular presence presenting Oliver with an enormous challenge (i.e. Slade, Malcolm). Can't keep having nameless incompetent henchmen do all the work while the main villain just walks around talking.
You are 100% right, but I'm worried that next season may be more of the same with HIVE. Hope I'm wrong.
Posted on 5/15/15 at 1:26 am to UMRealist
If we're getting into the supernatural themes of Legends of Tomorrow, why not go a step further and introduce the Korrilians and, instead of having Damien Darkh be the head of H.I.V.E., have it be Zazzala herself.
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