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re: I was wrong about conceal carry

Posted on 9/18/14 at 5:28 pm to
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14419 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 5:28 pm to
quote:

You actually carried without one in the pipe?


Exactly. WTH? Carrying without one in the pipe,he's basically carrying a paperweight.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 5:37 pm to
It called Israeli Carry. If you train that way it may be a good fit for you. I personally like one in the chamber, but I don't carry a Glock so Glock Thigh does not concern me. Nor does accidental frag outs.

Israeli Carry

Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11877 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:09 pm to
quote:

If you train that way it may be a good fit for you.


To me, speed and success of racking a pistol comes secondary to the worse reason to carry a handgun with an empty chamber.

You need both hands to rack a pistol efficiently. This does not mean it cannot be done with one hand, but it certainly becomes much more difficult.

If someone is on top of you, which is a very real possibility, and you only have one hand available, you are forced to beat them with your gun.

If your gun is holstered and the trigger is protected, there is no reason to engage a safety (unless carrying a SAO, 1911) and or carry with an empty chamber.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:25 pm to
I carry chambered with safety on. I will practice drawing my gun (unloaded) while disengaging the safety. Its second nature to swipe the safety with my thumb now. Carrying unloaded just seems like you limit when the gun would even be useful ti carry to such a small amount of circumstances that its pointless.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
166136 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:29 pm to
Good luck w that when your life is at stake
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:34 pm to
Chance I'm willing to take. I honestly don't carry unless I feel I'm well practiced. If I feel like I haven't shot in a while or haven't practiced drawing, I leave the gun at home.
Posted by TidenUP
Dauphin Island
Member since Apr 2011
14419 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 6:56 pm to
LOL...I'm POST certified and carry a Glock 22 .40 cal on duty. On my off days, I carry a Ruger SR1911 as my personal carry sidearm. Having said that, you rarely get that extra time to rack a round into the chamber in an upclose encounter. If he's not comfy carrying a pistol without a chambered round, a revolver may be his best bet.
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
33860 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

It called Israeli Carry. If you train that way it may be a good fit for you. I personally like one in the chamber, but I don't carry a Glock so Glock Thigh does not concern me. Nor does accidental frag outs.


Just coming to post about this. With training you can cut your reaction time A LOT. I carry loaded just because I don't train for this, but I had the opportunity to train with the current head of IDF small arms training. When you see these guys do it you won't completely dismiss the idea. They are faster than most people on this message board.


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quote:

If someone is on top of you, which is a very real possibility, and you only have one hand available, you are forced to beat them with your gun.


It is a really good point. The Israelis have Krav to fall back on and we train hard to get off the ground.
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:46 pm to
#GlockLeg
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:14 pm to
quote:

Fyi, I saw you take a picture with a buddy of mine. He posted it on FB. State Trooper buddy



Your buddy must have been at the bout
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:24 pm to
Here's my opinion on it.

If you think a safety is going to get you killed, you don't practice enough.

/thread
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 9:25 pm
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:33 pm to
The thread is not about safeties


Re-open the thread at once!!!
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:36 pm to
Coulda fooled me. I thought it was about why you should carry full pipe hammer back safety removed.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20385 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:02 pm to
I carry condition 1 with either of my cc 1911s
I have no issues carrying condition 0 but that would also mean the zombies are out
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:05 pm to
I agree if flipping the thumb safety on condition 1 is a problem you probably shouldn't be carrying
Posted by KBeezy
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
13529 posts
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:09 pm to
quote:

Coulda fooled me. I thought it was about why you should carry full pipe hammer back safety removed.



I just read through the thread, and I'll admit I been whiskey sipping, but who said something about carrying a SA firearm chambered with the safety off in here?
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
17670 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 2:40 am to
quote:

was scared because I had a non safety gun.


Really

The safety is between your ears
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:42 am to
quote:

Really

The safety is between your ears



I have children. I'm trained military and my primary weapon was a 1911 so my comfort with guns is fine.
Posted by Broke
AKA Buttercup
Member since Sep 2006
65044 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:43 am to
quote:

Your buddy must have been at the bout



He was.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48829 posts
Posted on 9/19/14 at 10:46 am to
quote:

I now carry chambered...carrying an unloaded gun would be insane.


You'll shoot your eye out kid.
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