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re: Joe Biden refers to Asia as "The Orient", and weak people are outraged
Posted on 9/18/14 at 7:11 am to theunknownknight
Posted on 9/18/14 at 7:11 am to theunknownknight
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How is negro a racial slur?
Only a slur if a white person uses this (in any context)...
Posted on 9/18/14 at 7:14 am to GallatinTiger
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Only a slur if a white person uses this (in any context)...
I hate the word slur. It's overused and used incorrectly IMO.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 7:51 am to theunknownknight
quote:Certainly depends on intent, especially as it is not in common use any more. In contrast, I don't know that I've ever heard the term "oriental" used derisively. Of course as with "oriental," negro is another Romance based term. Translates as "black".
How is negro a racial slur?
Hells bells though, let's face it, we live in a pc society willing to accept the term "****rdly" as an offensive "slur". So at times it's anyone's guess.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I've never had a problem with it. My mom is from the Philippines and refers to Asians as Oriental all the time, and has never had a problem with anyone saying it to her. She's more offended when people call her Mexican.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:16 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Does Russia count as "the Orient"?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:26 am to NC_Tigah
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Hells bells though, let's face it, we live in a pc society willing to accept the term "****rdly" as an offensive "slur". So at times it's anyone's guess.
The fact that any educated person would be afraid to type out the word ****rdly is interesting, for sure. You didn't type it out on a website where some pretty graphic descriptions of various sexual copulations takes place everyday and gay is a word used regularly as an insult. Considering your post count and longivity, I find that very telling, as you, yourself, seem to have fallen prey to PC aggression.
That word is completely unrelated in any form or fashion to a racial slur, but you're correct in that some people (usually uneducated or chip-on-their-shoulder white apologists who are equally stupid) would take that word and completely, without any fact or reasoning, basterdize its meaning. And for what? To remain PC and foist their PC holier-than-thouness onto everyone else.
**editorial after-the-fact comment: since my pst was automatically edited, I take back that you'd succumbed to PCdom yourself, when, in fact, the site is succumbing on your behalf!
This post was edited on 9/18/14 at 8:39 am
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:30 am to Tigah in the ATL
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it's not offensive it's just wrong.
Offensive in a "you're from Louisiana, yeah, that's like Texas, right?" way
No, that would be "Asian," which is overly general. People are idiots to tolerate that but not oriental.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 8:37 am to TN Bhoy
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Read Edward Said's Orientalism
That book has many, many critics.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:01 am to NC_Tigah
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Certainly depends on intent
If you think about it, any term can be considered a slur if used in conjection with a pejorative (eg. White m*****f*****, Black b*****d, etc.). Additionally, some terms, which normally aren't pejoratives, are considered pejoratives when used in certain contexts. For example, referring to a person as a Jew lawyer is ceratin to raise a few eyebrows, while referring that person as a lawyer of Jewish descent won't.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 9:08 am to UL-SabanRival
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No, that would be "Asian," which is overly general. People are idiots to tolerate that but not oriental.
That's also my biggest problem with "Asian", it's too general to tell you much about a person's ethnicity. Lebanese, Pakistanis, Iranians and Japanese are all Asians.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 10:12 am to trackfan
I dont call my black friends negro. Who does that ? ie NO ONE
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:47 pm to Vols&Shaft83
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I don't know man, that's a pretty slippery slope. Just sayin.
ISWYDT.
Just wanted you to know that.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 2:48 pm to theunknownknight
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How is negro a racial slur?
I know it is okay if you write it on a check for a college fund group.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:12 pm to navy
Enh, it is Joe Biden. We are so used to gaffes from the poor man that even when he doesn't commit one we still react like he did.
I am sure more then one reporter has pencilled in the headline "Biden says something stupid" as the working title for their article before the speech even starts. Bless his heart, at this point no one would bat an eye if he exposed himself during a press conference.
I am sure more then one reporter has pencilled in the headline "Biden says something stupid" as the working title for their article before the speech even starts. Bless his heart, at this point no one would bat an eye if he exposed himself during a press conference.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:15 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:me too the feigned offended outrage is one tired schtick.
I'm on Biden's side on this one.
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:22 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So is it offensive to call asian people Orientals?
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:24 pm to Radiojones
Not offensive, just outdated. Equivalent to "colored" for black people.
Biden used the phrase "wisest man of the Orient" which for me conjures up an image like this:
But that probably makes me "racist", not Biden
Biden used the phrase "wisest man of the Orient" which for me conjures up an image like this:
But that probably makes me "racist", not Biden
Posted on 9/18/14 at 4:27 pm to navy
quote:Bitches be stealin' my jokes.
ISWYDT.
Just wanted you to know that.
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