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re: Tuscaloosa Police Perform Uber Sting
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:29 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:29 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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With all due respect, I give zero fricks about drivers having some sort of license from a government agency that says, "Hey, you can drive your car for money."
With all due respect, that's pretty short sighted. Someone who is driving their car on the road for a living needs to be subjected to a higher scrutiny than the guy commuting to work five days a week. And they need to pay additional fees/taxes, etc. to go towards the maintenance and upkeep of the roads they use disproportionately from you or me. Road maintenance is a huge item in a city budget.
Now I'm all more than willing to purchase that service conveniently through an app as opposed to a traditional taxi dispatcher, but they have to play by the same rules in terms of public safety regulations and help pay their fair share of load for infrastructure costs.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 1:30 pm
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Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:29 pm to SabiDojo
Jesus ChristPosted on 9/17/14 at 1:30 pm to Pax Regis
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With all due respect, that's pretty short sighted. Someone who is driving their car on the road for a living needs to be subjected to a higher scrutiny than the guy commuting to work five days a week. And they need to pay additional fees/taxes, etc. to go towards the maintenance and upkeep of the roads they use disproportionately from you or me. Road maintenance is a huge item in a city budget.
Now I'm all more than willing to purchase that service conveniently through an app as opposed to a traditional taxi dispatcher, but they have to play by the same rules in terms of public safety regulations and help pay their fair share of load for infrastructure costs.
No offense, but you've apparently bought into a lot of bullshite.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:31 pm to Pax Regis
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Someone who is driving their car on the road for a living needs to be subjected to a higher scrutiny than they guy commuting to work five days a week.
They already are, they are subject to public scrutiny in an age where almost everyone you meet has a smart phone. If you are a dangerous or bad driver the message will get out faster than any time in human history.
It actually does a better job than the government because the public scrutiny rates safety, value, and the overall experience nearly every single time the service is used.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:32 pm to inthemorning
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It actually does a better job than the government because the public scrutiny rates safety, value, and the overall experience nearly every single time the service is used.
Not only that, the information is available to everyone at ALL times.
Its not subject to some sort of 5 person review panel that meets in some windowless room that never publishes its findings.
The creation of the internet(and related tech) really was a game changer, and I'm not sure its fully appreciated yet even today.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:33 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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No offense, but you've apparently bought into a lot of bullshite.
Please enlighten me.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:33 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
Accountability definitely appears to be higher with Uber.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:40 pm to Pax Regis
I'll just put some food for though out there:
It what way is an Uber driver under LESS scrutiny than a taxi driver? Because a taxi driver has a license issued by our well oiled government bureaucracies? Let's just be honest, licensing raises money for the government, it doesn't protect you from any thing. If someone wants to violate their licensing and harm you, that license isn't going to keep you from getting killed. The thing that keeps people from fricking with other people on purpose is punishment and the ability to continue making money. Uber drivers have the same incentive to stay clean as taxi drivers.
As noted above, Uber drivers are under more scrutiny than any individual taxi driver you have ever dealt with, so it doesn't need to be repeated.
How about the increased economic activity of cheaper fares, less bullshite, and increased job creation?
Do you think governments can collect money from such activity? Do you think this may in fact offset such issues?
The mere existence of the government bureaucracy isn't evidence of the need to continue its existence.
ETA: BTW I can tell you've never ridden with an Uber driver. The people I dealt with were about 100 billion times more trustworthy and clean than any taxi driver I've ever had. I expected that, but was still amazed at the stark contrast.
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Someone who is driving their car on the road for a living needs to be subjected to a higher scrutiny than the guy commuting to work five days a week.
It what way is an Uber driver under LESS scrutiny than a taxi driver? Because a taxi driver has a license issued by our well oiled government bureaucracies? Let's just be honest, licensing raises money for the government, it doesn't protect you from any thing. If someone wants to violate their licensing and harm you, that license isn't going to keep you from getting killed. The thing that keeps people from fricking with other people on purpose is punishment and the ability to continue making money. Uber drivers have the same incentive to stay clean as taxi drivers.
As noted above, Uber drivers are under more scrutiny than any individual taxi driver you have ever dealt with, so it doesn't need to be repeated.
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And they need to pay additional fees/taxes, etc. to go towards the maintenance and upkeep of the roads they use disproportionately from you or me. Road maintenance is a huge item in a city budget
How about the increased economic activity of cheaper fares, less bullshite, and increased job creation?
Do you think governments can collect money from such activity? Do you think this may in fact offset such issues?
The mere existence of the government bureaucracy isn't evidence of the need to continue its existence.
ETA: BTW I can tell you've never ridden with an Uber driver. The people I dealt with were about 100 billion times more trustworthy and clean than any taxi driver I've ever had. I expected that, but was still amazed at the stark contrast.
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:52 pm to Teddy Ruxpin
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With all due respect, I give zero fricks about drivers having some sort of license from a government agency that says, "Hey, you can drive your car for money."
why stop there...pilots shouldn't need licenses either right? I just got a sweet new idea...uber plane
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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I just got a sweet new idea...uber plane
They have UberJet.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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Topwater Trout
They didn't always need licenses, and air traffic controls used to not be government run either. I'm not sure what your point is.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:56 pm to Topwater Trout
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why stop there...pilots shouldn't need licenses either right? I just got a sweet new idea...uber plane
Not to mention you made a false comparison.
A license to drive is not a license to make money driving. They are two separate licenses.
One is a minimum competency to operate a vehicle, one allows you to drive that vehicle for money. The latter makes money for the government and is a barrier of entry for those who can't afford the license. That is it.
Any other false comparisons you want to raise while we're here?
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 1:59 pm to inthemorning
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They didn't always need licenses
and why exactly would that change? ...maybe for public safety??
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and air traffic controls used to not be government run either
what does this have to do with licensing people who are carrying passengers?
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I'm not sure what your point is.
read the post I replied to...if you can't figure it out an explanation probably wouldn't help
This post was edited on 9/17/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:00 pm to Pax Regis
Wow marijuana possession. That's serious shite.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:07 pm to Topwater Trout
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why stop there...pilots shouldn't need licenses either right? I just got a sweet new idea...uber plane
Except Uber drivers are licensed drivers.....
They just don't have a chauffeur class or endorsement.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:16 pm to DCtiger1
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Except Uber drivers are licensed drivers.....
did you read the op? Who is policing them to see if they have licenses or that their license is valid? and what happens when an uber driver gets in a wreck and they let their insurance lapse? or the insurance won't cover them because they weren't insured to carry passengers?
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:21 pm to Pax Regis
I've been trying to tell you kids
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:29 pm to Topwater Trout
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did you read the op? Who is policing them to see if they have licenses or that their license is valid? and what happens when an uber driver gets in a wreck and they let their insurance lapse? or the insurance won't cover them because they weren't insured to carry passengers?
Uber does run background report/initial MVR and they use an outside company to monitor DL status.
Personal auto or even an umbrella policy will not cover Uber X drivers if involved in an accident. All PAP's have a livery/conveyance exclusion.
Honest question, How often do taxi cab companies run checks on their drivers? MVRs are extremely expensive to continously order. For reference, MVR expense is 2nd only to salary for most Insurance companies.
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:32 pm to DCtiger1
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Uber does run background report/initial MVR and they use an outside company to monitor DL status.
during the initial hiring process?
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Personal auto or even an umbrella policy will not cover Uber X drivers if involved in an accident
so what requirements have been set to ensure the passenger is covered?
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How often do taxi cab companies run checks on their drivers?
I have no idea. But if I was involved in a wreck I would rather be able to sue yellow cab than some uber driver
Posted on 9/17/14 at 2:40 pm to Pax Regis
Tuscaloosa Police Perform Uber Sting
And people laugh when I say we have too many cops.
If your municipality is paying a group of individuals close to a $100K compensation package to bust wannabe cabbies, they are doing it wrong.
And people laugh when I say we have too many cops.
If your municipality is paying a group of individuals close to a $100K compensation package to bust wannabe cabbies, they are doing it wrong.
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