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re: Joan Rivers had surprise throat biopsy that cut off her air supply
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:18 am to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:18 am to tigerpimpbot
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Damn. Melissa gon get paid.
Philip Rivers gon get paid too
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Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:18 am to Displaced
Lol
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:21 am to Displaced
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Such a procedure is not supposed to be performed outside of a hospital, according to medical experts.
quote:Yes it does and that is why certain procedures are not to be done outside of hospitals.
she died during a surgical procedure. it happens
I am not a doctor nor do I work in the medical industry, but I was under the impression that there is nothing ever routine about operating on someone her age. Granted physical condition is more important than the actual age.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:23 am to tigerpimpbot
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:23 am to tigerpimpbot
Still don't know who this woman is
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:24 am to TigerHam85
yes you do, quit trying to sound cool
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:28 am to tigerpimpbot
In-office biopsies via a flexible endoscope is commonly done (typically by laryngologists) as a way to avoid general anesthesia for patients. Laryngospasm is a potential complication of the procedure which is often prevented with topically anesthesia. Performing an in-office biopsy IS NOT malpractice despite what is implied in the OP's article per the "medical experts."
You can google for more but a quick pubmed search showed this article.
There are plenty more out there if you are interested in learning more about the procedure.
You can google for more but a quick pubmed search showed this article.
There are plenty more out there if you are interested in learning more about the procedure.
This post was edited on 9/10/14 at 9:24 am
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:29 am to DirtyMikeandtheBoys
I had to google her when I saw her name on the news. Yes, I recognized her, but I have no idea who she was or what she did.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:32 am to Coater
quote:What if the doctor performing the procedure is not associated with the facility where the procedure was done?
Performing an in-office biopsy IS NOT malpractice despite what is implied in the OP's article per the "medical experts."
Posted on 9/10/14 at 8:49 am to Coater
They also need to have informed consent.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:00 am to Coater
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in-office biopsy IS NOT malpractice despite what is implied
This. Though I am uncertain of exactly what was done, instruments are made specifically for the purpose of in- office vocal cord biopsies.
The next level of care would probably be an outpatient surgical setting. Almost no laryngeal biopsies would require an inpatient hospital setting.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:02 am to LNCHBOX
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Age does not excuse improper medical procedure
This.......
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:11 am to EarthwormJim
I come to the OT wanting to say mean things about an 80 year old woman that had enough plastic in her face to build a model car but then I think to myself its not worth it. The fact that she had a traveling doctor with her say's a lot to her health already. I don't understand what's wrong with growing old. I know many friends that will never get the opportunity because their life was cut short at an early age. I think growing old is a good thing and is to be respected by those around you because of the life experiences you were able to share. When I speak to people who fought in WWII, Korea, Vietnam, it feels like stepping into a time machine and really appreciate what they went through. It's pretty awesome to read about the battle of the bulge but I much rather prefer the conversation I had with a man that not only fought in the battle of the bulge but stormed the beaches at Normandy.
When you see an old person don't just walk by and stare stop and say hello in there.
-John Prine.
When you see an old person don't just walk by and stare stop and say hello in there.
-John Prine.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:12 am to Jcorye1
I suspect someone connected to the clinic blew the whistle. As an RN, I have done it myself.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:27 am to tigerpimpbot
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a doctor who arrived at the clinic with the legendary comic’s entourage
Another celebrity taken down by their own personal doctor.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:31 am to Coater
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Coater
Agreed. Not necessarily malpractice but I bet there will be a lawsuit. If there was no signed informed consent for the biopsy with the stated procedure(s) and physicians' names then they may have a case. If it isnt written in the chart, then it didnt happen. Also, it isnt standard of care to perform a laryngeal biopsy during an EGD unless this was specified in the consent.
Regardless, there was some incompetence displayed by these physicians as they should know how to deal with laryngospasm should it occur intra-op as well as airway management...or have an anethesiologist close by. Very preventable death.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:31 am to drunkenpunkin
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Seriously? An entourage doctor is not exactly highly respected in the field. And clearly overstepped his bounds. Are you a doctor?
This is where I am confused. Did she bring her personal doctor with her?
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:38 am to Coater
The problem is not the procedure, but the medical staff's inability to manage a crisis. There is a procedure known as a tracheotomy. For some reason the staff did not do their job very well. Incompetent!
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:40 am to LSUERDOC
LSUERDOC, thank you. I suspect incompetence at many levels in this facility.
Posted on 9/10/14 at 9:43 am to Pilot Tiger
The good old boy network at its finest!
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