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re: This about sums up my thoughts on the ice bucket challenge
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:32 am to SlowFlowPro
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but if they need a gimmick to be told what charity to donate to, then there is a problem and they should examine their decision making
why? because you say so?
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Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:33 am to GRTiger
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but I laugh when you talk about peacocking on social media. How can you of all people bash attention starved people on the internet?
same guy that brags about all his internet friends
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:33 am to GRTiger
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It looks like to me that you do it for attention, so you should be immensely criticized, as you would agree.
so are you comparing me discussing issues/movies or making jokes to the nobility of charitable giving?
and am i running to social media to post "OH shite I OWNED THAT FOOL"? or something?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:34 am to Choctaw
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why? because you say so?
why weren't they giving before, if they feel so strongly about charity (or that specific issue/charity)? why this charity? why not others? what other charities should they be supporting with these personal resources?
it's not about me. it's about them.
i know what charities i support and i do my own research to find out which i want to support
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:34 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:35 am to goldennugget
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Most people are doing it for the attention rather than actually caring about ALS
Yep. Look at me! Look at me! I'm donating money to charity!!!
I haven't watched a single one.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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why weren't they giving before
who.....fricking....cares?
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if they feel so strongly about charity (or that specific issue/charity)? why this charity?
who said they feel strongly about charity...or a specific charity?
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why not others?
who.....fricking.....cares?
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what other charities should they be supporting with these personal resources?
i don't know
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it's not about me. it's about them.
its about you getting upset because you don't think certain people are donating the way you think they should
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i know what charities i support and i do my own research to find out which i want to support
good for you. here's a pat on the back
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:38 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:37 am to The Spleen
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I haven't watched a single one.
YOU HAVE NOW
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:38 am to Jay Quest
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I was expecting a blank posting
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:38 am to Choctaw
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who.....fricking....cares?
they should. that's the issue
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who said they feel strongly about charity...or a specific charity?
if they made a video to post on facebook, with all the prep involved, then they care about this
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who.....fricking.....cares?
we all should. again, do you ever criticize people for their bad decision making? or are you jesus?
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its about you getting upset
i'm not upset. i'm pointing out irrationality and beliefs/actions i disagree with.
i'd be a hypocrite if i only did this with behaviors we all agree are bad
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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i don't know. that says more about people and leads to a legitimate discussion
I don't see why marketing a charity is somehow worse than marketing goods and services. If a private business had just boosted sales by 1000% using a marketing strategy like this we would all be praising them for their ingenuity.
As for people not thinking about ALS before the challenge blew up an estimated .005% of Americans have ALS. On top of that people tend to be purposely ignorant of the horrible things. Bringing awareness, and a much needed donation boost, to ALS research is a great thing.
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again, do all of you support "the ends justify the means" in all other aspects of life? that's basically teh argument
Why would I have to always support "the ends justify the means" in every aspect of my life if I support it in this, benign, instance? I have the ability to differentiate between immoral, unjustifiable actions and benign ones.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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it's only genius if you selfishly gain from it. it's a behavior that is terrible in general
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nd, again, THAT is an interesting discussion...especially if we want the human race to improve
It is the behaviour we engage in everyday. If you want to argue that we as a human race need to change our inherent nature then that's a whole different discussion. But criticising a charity and people who are donating to it simply because they may have a selfish component is hypocritical to say the least. Everything you do is selfish, but everything you do may not be helping others, but this is.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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they should. that's the issue
why?
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if they made a video to post on facebook, with all the prep involved, then they care about this
ok?
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we all should. again, do you ever criticize people for their bad decision making? or are you jesus?
i'm criticizing you for your decision to post in this thread
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i'm not upset. i'm pointing out irrationality and beliefs/actions i disagree with.
there's nothing irrational about posting a video and giving to charity.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:42 am to SlowFlowPro
So is the person that sees this on Facebook who throws a hundred at ALS research on top of his other charitable giving a sheep? He doesn't post a video, so certainly not a peacock, but he "fell" for this marketing ploy to get you to take notice of a real disease and give money to it.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:44 am to MFn GIMP
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I don't see why marketing a charity is somehow worse than marketing goods and services.
i'm not against marketing, and people are free to do whatever they want, but people who are swayed by marketing/emotions...we always criticize them on here (and the food board is the worst at this).
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If a private business had just boosted sales by 1000% using a marketing strategy like this we would all be praising them for their ingenuity.
i am not criticizing the marketing itself. i more question why it just now took off when it's been around a while, but that's not a criticism. the marketing was obviously effective towards its goal
i'm criticizing the people's actions
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Why would I have to always support "the ends justify the means" in every aspect of my life if I support it in this, benign, instance?
what is the dividing line when it is acceptable and when it it is not acceptable? how do you align your intellectual consistency?
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:45 am to SpidermanTUba
Dumb.
Every article I've read about the people who have the bucket dumped on them have also contributed to the fund drive. Some of them have contributed thousands of dollars.
Every article I've read about the people who have the bucket dumped on them have also contributed to the fund drive. Some of them have contributed thousands of dollars.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:45 am to rintintin
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If you want to argue that we as a human race need to change our inherent nature then that's a whole different discussion.
i argue this all the time
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But criticising a charity and people who are donating to it simply because they may have a selfish component is hypocritical to say the least. Everything you do is selfish,
i'm not denying this. i disagree with the individual motives and goals of the selfishness in this instance
earlier i linked to a thread i made last year about charity and this is a continuation of that to an extent
This post was edited on 8/19/14 at 9:46 am
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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i more question why it just now took off when it's been around a while
Come on Slo you're smarter than this. People need to be aware of a charity in order to donate. You can't just start a charity and expect people to discover you out of the blue, the same goes for ANY business. This silly challenge has brought awareness in droves, hence the huge increase in donations.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:52 am to Choctaw
In all honesty when it first started popping up on Facebook I found it annoying, then I realized how much awareness and money has been raised for ALS and I got over it.
I honestly don't see what all the hate is, you don't have to watch the videos if you don't want to. What is so great on your Facebook feed that you are missing? Happy Birthday wishes to friends and Candy Crush scores? Social Media in is 99% attention whoring in general, who am I to care if it takes these people 30 seconds of Facebook fame to donate to ALS? I would bet that most of the people out there bitching about these videos aren't donating either.
I honestly don't see what all the hate is, you don't have to watch the videos if you don't want to. What is so great on your Facebook feed that you are missing? Happy Birthday wishes to friends and Candy Crush scores? Social Media in is 99% attention whoring in general, who am I to care if it takes these people 30 seconds of Facebook fame to donate to ALS? I would bet that most of the people out there bitching about these videos aren't donating either.
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:52 am to LSURussian
This thread is the pinnacle of 1st world problems.
1. Charity devises clever marketing campaign to raise awareness.
2. Campaign catches on and raises a ton of money
3. Some people are doing it as a "look at me moment"
4. People complain that some people are only contributing to charity for reasons that are not good.
If this is all we have to bitch about, then maybe we are doing pretty good
1. Charity devises clever marketing campaign to raise awareness.
2. Campaign catches on and raises a ton of money
3. Some people are doing it as a "look at me moment"
4. People complain that some people are only contributing to charity for reasons that are not good.
If this is all we have to bitch about, then maybe we are doing pretty good
Posted on 8/19/14 at 9:54 am to SlowFlowPro
I wonder if anybody has had a heart attack yet from the sudden shock of having ice water dumped on them?
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