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re: POS POTUS: Muslims thanked for "building the very fabric of our nation"

Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:29 pm to
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That's casting out a bunch of heritage and culture.



How? How is the president focusing on things that ACTUALLY matter detracting from anyone's faith? How is anything disappearing?

He should spend time leading the country, not trying to pander to every religious group while offending none. Just remove that nonsense from the equation. I don't need a fricking president to acknowledge the worth of my beliefs to validate those beliefs.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:30 pm to
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ocelot4ark, you really want to geaux there? Really?



Westboro Baptist represents all Christian beliefs, right?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Westboro Baptist represents all Christian beliefs, right?
I have no doubt you thought that was brilliant, prior to uploading it.

Hint: Compare Muslim response to Hasan/Ft. Hood with Christian response to Phelps/Westboro.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:42 pm to
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Compare Muslim response to Hasan/Ft. Hood


Link to comprehensive survey that gauged the opinions of the overwhelming majority of the millions of Muslims around the world?

I find it hard to believe that even a few million of them KNOW about it, since so many don't/didn't know about 9/11 for years and years and years.

These are people who don't have newspapers. Books.

But whatever you want. Let the boogeyman get all up in your head.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 12:50 pm to
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These are people who don't have newspapers. Books.
US Muslims don't have newspapers?
Really?
No TV either?
Perhaps US Imams are illiterate, deaf, and blind?
Seriously?

Jeeze, who knew!
If they just played pinball, we'd have the beginnings of a Rock Opera.

This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 12:51 pm
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:16 pm to
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US Muslims don't have newspapers?



Link showing all US Muslims were happy about the massacre?

Absolutes are the tools of, well, tools.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Link showing all US Muslims were happy about the massacre?

Absolutes are the tools of, well, tools.
No no, TUba.

I'll show you leagues of Christians verbalizing positions attacking Phelps, protesting Westboro, expressing outrage, assisting with actions against him, etc.

You show me the same for Muslims vs Hasan.

Take your time.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:31 pm to
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I'll show you leagues of Christians verbalizing positions attacking Phelps, protesting Westboro, expressing outrage, assisting with actions against him, etc.



I don't protest Westboro or their ilk. Does that mean I support them?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:36 pm to
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I don't protest Westboro or their ilk. Does that mean I support them?
Let's try again.

I'll show you leagues of Christians verbalizing positions attacking Phelps, protesting Westboro, expressing outrage, assisting with actions against him, etc.

You show me the same for Muslims vs Hasan.

Continue to take your time.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:42 pm to
Yes, let's try again.

Does one have to actively and outwardly protest something to actually be against it? It's a very simple fricking question.

Whether or not Muslims in the US outwardly protested is irrelevant. IRRELEVANT. You can't judge millions of people based on an assumption.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123908 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 1:57 pm to
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millions of people
Exactly. Millions indeed.
Allows for observations of statistical population dynamics, whereas a smaller sample might not.

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Whether or not Muslims in the US outwardly protested is irrelevant. IRRELEVANT. You can't judge millions of people based on an assumption.
No no.
You can't judge millions of people based on an assumption.
But then we are not talking about assumption. We are taking about fact.

So back to a collection of responses amongst those millions to Hasan's actions . . . anything?

Come on. I'm sure you can dig up something . . . Give it a whirl.
Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2009
12458 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:23 pm to
Google Muslims against terrorism. Look at the first three links.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69908 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 2:37 pm to
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Google Muslims against terrorism. Look at the first three links.



I tried, but as I was typing it out I started hearing this weird ticking sound coming from my laptop.

Shut it down and got the frick away.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 6:41 pm to
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He is a" job creator." Is he not part of the fabric of America simply because he is Muslim?



In addition to condominiums, don't forget, union workers have put in thousands of hours rebuilding the towers. The first time, there was just some repair work. On 9/11 they gave us the opportunity to add two new buildings to the New York skyline.
Thanks to the Muslims we have spent trillions on Homland Security, forever changing the laws on our privacy. Obama has a differnent meaning when he stated, "Eid also reminds us of the many achievements and contributions of Muslim Americans to building the very fabric of our nation and strengthening the core of our democracy".
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46509 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:12 pm to
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He sure spends an inordinate amount of time praising the accomplishment of Muslims, like their contributions to our space program! Very odd.


Not really, Bush, Clinton, daddy Bush and Reagan all said similar things about Islam.

The president who was most critical of muslims? Carter, a devout Christian and critic of Islam who ironically is almost unanimously despised by the religious right.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 7:14 pm
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53771 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 7:18 pm to
I had a libertarian buddy send me this today in response to the OP's link:

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So he is correct. Please refer to one of America's earliest treaties, the Treaty of Tripoli 1797. It reads " As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion,—as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion, or tranquility, of Mussulmen [Muslims],—and as the said States never entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mahometan [Mohammedan] nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." So, whether intended or not, this early precept that the US is not a Christian Nation (as was all of Europe), and did not endorse a state religion, is a critical aspect of our Democracy. Students of history know this fact.... The Christian Right tend to ignore this established fact and ratified treaty.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15713 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 8:47 pm to
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No wonder he is laying down on Israel. He doesn't seem very pro Christian either. Don't every remember him wishing me a merry fricking holiday.


Does he even mention the actual word "Christmas" like he does Ramadan?
Posted by urinetrouble
Member since Oct 2007
20507 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 8:55 pm to
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Posted by Truckasaurus Threads like this pile of trash are why people don't like Poliboard.


This.

OP is delusional.
Posted by beachreb61
Long Beach, MS
Member since Nov 2009
1715 posts
Posted on 7/30/14 at 10:20 pm to
Muslims in space? Sounds like a Mel brooks production...

Confusing with the directional aspects of towards Mecca.
This post was edited on 7/30/14 at 10:23 pm
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 7/31/14 at 11:21 am to
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The reason you have similar quotes from both of the Presidents we've had since 9/11 is because they realize that you have to make statements like this to cut down own the number of mouth breathers that think that all Muslims are terrorists.



Ceratinly the majority of Muslims aren't terrorist. However the list is pretty short of those who stand up and try to shout down the terrorists.
I've seen two Muslim women on a crusade to alert folks about the danger of saying nothing. They were quickly shouted down by folks in the media with your attitude.
I believe there is a video showing how the typical American Muslim in Detroit felt about 9/11.
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