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re: Will Blackwell bashing Les and LSU on Twitter
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:39 am to ipodking
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:39 am to ipodking
Threads like this are why I hate most of our fan base. There was no giant fricking conspiracy on 1/9. We had a shot to turn things around up until the end of the third and didnt. Then they broke it open late.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:39 am to ipodking
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No I won't get over it. You don't trash a great man like Les Miles and think an apology will make everything better. frick Will Blackwell.
So, what are you going to do, bash him daily forever to make yourself feel good? The only person who should really care about this is Les and he's got better things to do than stay mad over some player who is sour grapes bashing him and it wasn't exactly the worst thing I've heard someone say about Les. If you want to bash people, you should be angrier at your own fellow LSU fans. They are far worse than "he's nobody now" Will Blackwell. Bash the media. They are far worse than Blackwell. Find something worthy to be pissed about. This isn't it.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:42 am to NorthshoreTiger76
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some LSU fans will never get over 1/9
We could win the NC 5 years in a row and people who like being miserable would still bitch about the past. It happened. It was bad at the time. It's over and it can't be changed. Talking about it ad nauseum does nothing. Nada. Zilch.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:42 am to Tiger Voodoo
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Exactly. It was all smiles and hugs when we were running through the greatest season in LSU history.
I'm not defending Blackwell at all, but that is flat out wrong.
People were not happy with the offensive production once Jefferson took over.
We rode defense and special teams those last games and went into the NC game hoping JJ could option us into beating Bama.
It's not Monday-morning quarterbacking to question the gameplan. It was a stupid gameplan from the start, and Les stubbornly didn't adjust it when it didn't work. Then he inexplicably quit in the third quarter.
That was a bad game that Les should feel bad about.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 11:45 am to lsuhunt555
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Threads like this are why I hate most of our fan base. There was no giant fricking conspiracy on 1/9. We had a shot to turn things around up until the end of the third and didnt. Then they broke it open late.
No they really didn't.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:00 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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what coach would put up with such idiotic demands from their players??? In what world is that reasonable??
Maybe if the team was getting ready to play in the New Orleans bowl, but not the BCSCG. A player would have to be suffering from a mental break down to even think about confronting a coach of a 13-0 team with his displeasure over personal or offensive planning after the team just finished the regular season 12-0 and smoked Georgia in Georgia by five TDs.
T-Bob has said a number of times that nothing like that ever took place, but some cant let it go and have to dream up stuff beyond reason to explain the loss rather than just admit we got our arse kicked by a better team on that night.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:00 pm to uway
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I'm not defending Blackwell at all, but that is flat out wrong.
People were not happy with the offensive production once Jefferson took over.
Complete revisionist nonsense.
Ole Miss and Arkansas were the two best offensive games we played all year, and Jefferson played the entire game.
The only people "not happy" were those idiots that were mad that Lee wasn't playing, even though the possibility of a Rematch was very real and the reason Miles was sticking with JJ.
The SECCG was a bad day by JJ against a very good defense, and we still won 42-10 with no turnovers from JJ. Not exactly time to panic and change the plan.
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It's not Monday-morning quarterbacking to question the gameplan. It was a stupid gameplan from the start, and Les stubbornly didn't adjust it when it didn't work.
No, it wasn't.
It was the plan that got us an undefeated 13-0 SEC Championship, including a win in BDS in the GOTC.
And when was it decided that it "didn't work"?
It was 12-0 with less than a minute to go in the 3rd quarter. One big play by the defense or special teams at any point would have made that game completely different.
The defense played well and kept them out of the end zone until the very end, but couldn't make the play that they had all year to change the game.
The main difference between the GOTC and The Rematch was the improved play of AJ McCarron.
He had done nothing to show that he could attack our D the way he did that night. But it was not a fluke. The next two years and 24 wins later prove that the guy just found his groove, and it was more than our D could overcome, at least the D that was on the field on 1/9 with a troubled and unfocused Honey Badger.
That team fed off of TM all year long, and without his emotion and impact on the field, the team couldn't find the spark it needed.
Without The Badger, that LSU team wasn't as good as that Alabama team. With him, we were just about even, if not a little bit better, as proven in the GOTC in BDS.
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:08 pm to lsuhunt555
See the second sentence of my signature. Sad, but true. We have some real winners in our fan base. That bothers me a helluva lot more than anything Will Blackwell could say, because these so called fans never seem to go away!
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:14 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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We don't know the plays that were called because all we saw was JJ or the RB running for their lives. I'm quite certain that's not the way the plays were drawn up.
There is some truth there. Bama just had a phenomenal D. We knew that. However, I can think of a 3rd and 8 in the 1st half where we handed it to Spencer Ware. Ware had 16 carries in the 1st game against them with a 1.8 ypc average and his longest carry for that game was 6 yards. I believe he had 3 yards against them in 2010. Based on the track record - that was a bad call. I can think of another 3rd and 4 in the 2nd half where we ran JC Copeland who had 1 carry for 0 yards on the year. That was another really bad call on a pivotal down.
Then there was that punt in the 4th quarter down three scores with 3 and 1/2 minutes left in the NC...
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Again, Blackwell, Hebert, or anyone else that believes that Lee was the better option against that Alabama defense, which may have been the best of all time, is simply making an argument that has no history or facts to support it given his awful track record against them.
JJ had played well against Bama and he was obviously option 1. But you can't always go on track records when you see things aren't working at all. You just have to try whatever you can and just see if you're screwed or not. Hell, if we had gone on track records, we probably would've gotten rid of Lee after his sophomore year because he wasn't looking good against anyone at that point and would have been screwed for most of the year in 2011. I never thought Lee would be that valuable to be honest. That first Bama game in 2011 was the first bad game he had all year. He was allowed to have that kind of game on the road against the best D. It happens. His track record for that year was excellent overall, but it seemed like it went out of the window real fast. He had limited action against Bama in 2010, but he came in and did well. You just never know.
We shouldn't have had to play them again after winning at their house and winning an extra game in the SECCG, but sh*t happens. Bama had a phenomenal D and played great so it would have been tough either way. Miles record has been great at LSU, but that just wasn't one of his coaching highlights.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:28 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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BigEZTiger
Very solid and reasonable post
I do think Miles was in a tough spot though. Until the 4th when they went up 15-0, it was hard to give up the plan, as that one big play by the D/ST could have changed the game when it was 12-0.
But once that happened, it was a straight up feeding frenzy out there. At that point, how do you put Lee in, since his inability to handle Bama's pressure was the reason you went with JJ to begin with.
I said this after the game, but it would have been the EASIER thing for Miles to throw Lee in and just say "Well we tried everything!!!"
But he knew Lee would have been eaten alive. He gave the bashers amartyr at his own expense.
As great as AJ played, if at any point the D made a play I really think it would have gotten into his and Saban's head.
But feeling like they could convert third downs passing against us, even though they weren't scoring TDs, just built and built. Any other D would have folded but ours fought till the end.
The Bama D fed off of that too. They were pinning their ears back going nuts because their O kept us on our heels.
It was a cycle that we never broke,on either side of the ball.
Sucks, but that is what happened.
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We shouldn't have had to play them again after winning at their house and winning an extra game in the SECCG, but sh*t happens.
100% agree here
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 12:46 pm to uway
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People were not happy with the offensive production once Jefferson took over.
Then, "People" were not paying attention cause LSU gained more yds and scored more points in games 9-13 than they had in games 1-8.
LSU didn't win any games in 2011 cause of the QB play and they didn't lose any game cause of just the QB either.
This continual attack on JJ is bout as silly as it gets. As was the attack on JL in 08. Both guys did the best they could with the talent they had and both wanted to win. Why some feel the need to continue to beat them up when they both helped LSU to one of our greatest seasons in history will always be a mystery to me.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:10 pm to Lonnie4LSU
quote:Why a player on that team would bash the coach in public is what's mysterious to me.
Why some feel the need to continue to beat them up when they both helped LSU to one of our greatest seasons in history will always be a mystery to me.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:14 pm to VermilionTiger
Will Blackwell has to be one of the most overrated retards to ever play football.
I think he still frequents the Texas Club and makes sure all the lil yellow toothed rednecks know "Im will blackwell I play for LSU!!" in hopes of losing his virginity.
I think he still frequents the Texas Club and makes sure all the lil yellow toothed rednecks know "Im will blackwell I play for LSU!!" in hopes of losing his virginity.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:42 pm to Tiger Voodoo
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Complete revisionist nonsense.
GTFO.
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Ole Miss and Arkansas were the two best offensive games we played all year
GTFO. Did you watch the Arky game? HoneyBadger broke that shite open, not JJ.
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The SECCG was a bad day by JJ against a very good defense, and we still won 42-10 with no turnovers from JJ. Not exactly time to panic and change the plan.
JJ was so fricking terrible that game a fan literally died at half time in the stadium.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:44 pm to uway
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uway
I'm glad you are in here today. I have a few questions for someone like you that is an insider.
1. You say that Miles "quit". How do you know this? Did you have access to sideline conversations? Specifically how did he "quit"?
2.Again I trust that you have access to conversations between the coaches. How can you be certain that there were no adjustments to the game plan? Sometimes adjustments can be very subtle and not noticed by fans. Things like blocking assignment changes.
If you mean go to an all out Brees type of attack, how would that have worked given the O line's lack of effectiveness even assuming that angles and assignments would have been successfully altered.
I don't have any inside information but from reading your post, I have to believe that you do. Please share.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 1:51 pm to VermilionTiger
What happened to West Monroe guys like Reed, Whitworth, James, Banks? No class Mr. Blackwell. By the way, what does he do for a living? I wonder if playing football at LSU helped him in that regard?
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:20 pm to LSU Groupee
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with his displeasure over personal or offensive planning after the team just finished the regular season 12-0 and smoked Georgia in Georgia by five TDs
Did you watch that game? We won because of special teams and defense, we had a total of 30 yards passing (5 of 13) and put a whopping 237 yards on offense. Yes, this was a case of the result allowing Les to overlook the GIANT problem (lack of offensive production under JJ). This seems to be Les' MO, he thinks winning means you can ignore the problems, guess what, it came back to bite us.
Here is a link to stat sheet in case your memory has faded. LINK
This post was edited on 7/25/14 at 2:21 pm
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:51 pm to Mack
Have you ever tried to play football against a high level opponent and that high level opponent knows what you are going to do before you do it based upon previous experience and game film?
You could give max effort, and it still wouldn't matter. Tip of the cap to Bama, they were very prepared for exactly what LSU was going to do.
Seriously.
You could give max effort, and it still wouldn't matter. Tip of the cap to Bama, they were very prepared for exactly what LSU was going to do.
Seriously.
Posted on 7/25/14 at 2:52 pm to ellessuuuu
Guys, 'tis time to move on...the past is a casket...what a drag...grow up!
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