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re: Things the average American doesn't know about Louisiana
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:33 am to TexasTiger05
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:33 am to TexasTiger05
quote:hey, holla at me,, lets catch up
TexasTiger05
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Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:37 am to OWLFAN86
Say brah, you know anything about the Carthage area? I'm moving there tomorrow.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Do people really think we ride everywhere In boats? I mean that would be mildly cool but frick
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:40 am to Corkfather
quote:East Texas,, look up Frmr Sen Nixon
Say brah, you know anything about the Carthage area? I'm moving there tomorrow.
dude knows how to party
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:45 am to OWLFAN86
and here I thought he meant Tunisia.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:47 am to OWLFAN86
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Frmr Sen Nixon
Looked him up. Apparently dude got arrested for trying to get a $35 blowjob from an undercover cop?
Dude is so frickin bawse that they let him serve out his six month sentence on weekends and he didn't even lose his seat in the Senate. I'd definitely party with him.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:48 am to Corkfather
quote:that's the one
Dude is so frickin bawse that they let him serve out his six month sentence on weekends and he didn't even lose his seat in the Senate. I'd definitely party with him.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 12:55 am to Corkfather
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No, it has nothing to do with race. I am of Creole descent, my great-great-great-grandfather (not sure how many "greats", but you get the idea) was a General in Napoleon's army and was sent to govern the French colony of Saint-Domingue, the island that now emcompasses Haiti and the Dominican Republic. When the slave rebellion happened, he was forced to flee to the nearest French-held territory, New Orleans, and the rest is history; we have no "African" blood whatsoever.
Not exactly sure that's true. One thing is for sure and that is the fact that nobody knows exactly the lineage of the Louisiana creole people. From the little researching I have done (all prior to this thread and possibly outdated) it was the Portuguese people that are commonly grouped together with the Spanish that mingled with black slaves. They were very tolerant to blacks because they were used to seeing them in their native land. This would be the reason that "creole" people are said to have classic African American facial features minus brown eyes as opposed to black and wavy-flat hair as opposed to kinkier hair.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:02 am to LouisianaChessie
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Not exactly sure that's true. One thing is for sure and that is the fact that nobody knows exactly the lineage of the Louisiana creole people. From the little researching I have done (all prior to this thread and possibly outdated) it was the Portuguese people that are commonly grouped together with the Spanish that mingled with black slaves. They were very tolerant to blacks because they were used to seeing them in their native land. This would be the reason that "creole" people are said to have classic African American facial features minus brown eyes as opposed to black and wavy-flat hair as opposed to kinkier hair.
Creole was originally used to describe French Colonials who still remained loyal to France. It evolved into the definition you described later. Both terms are period correct.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:08 am to LaFlyer
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Creole was originally used to describe French Colonials who still remained loyal to France. It evolved into the definition you described later. Both terms are period correct.
Fair enough. There were a several different nationalities of people in Louisiana at that time and I'm sure there was a language barrier between most. Easy to see how one word could be used to describe two different groups of people throughout history.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:11 am to LouisianaChessie
Again, you're looking at being Creole as being part of an ethnic group and basing your opinion on modern Creoles who developed an African-American lineage later in history. Most of the remaining people who consider themselves Creole are Creoles of color who are from the West Baton Rouge, Pointe Coupee area, etc.
In the early days of New Orleans, when it was still a French territory, there were three social classes: white Creoles, mixed Creoles (passe blanc), and African slaves. Everyone was Creole in some way, except for the slaves, because Creole meant that you were French or European but born in the colony and therefore free. It is NOT A RACE.
In the early days of New Orleans, when it was still a French territory, there were three social classes: white Creoles, mixed Creoles (passe blanc), and African slaves. Everyone was Creole in some way, except for the slaves, because Creole meant that you were French or European but born in the colony and therefore free. It is NOT A RACE.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:12 am to LouisianaChessie
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Easy to see how one word could be used to describe two different groups of people throughout history.
Now you've got it.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 1:13 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:29 am to TexasTiger05
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Once you move out of Louisiana, and it has to be beyond a border state, you quickly realize that the average American thinks all Louisiana is a generic New Orleans stereotype. Double applies to moving out of the US. As much as people from Louisiana (specifically New Orleans) love to pat themselves on the back for their distinctive culture it's not anything that people outside of the state recognize.
Well said
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:30 am to lsunurse
Once you get out of the US, most people have no idea what/where Louisiana, and even New Orleans, is.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:32 am to LouisianaChessie
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LouisianaChessie
Interestingly enough in visiting Vietnam I saw architecture and food influenced by Creoles as well. Pretty similar to buildings you see in both New Orleans and parts of Santo Domingo. The French Creole or Kreyol as said in Hispaniola while not the oldest or successful colonies certainly had substantial and lasting influence in very diverse parts of the world. If you ever get to San Francisco go to the Hanging Door Restaurant for one of the best definitions of French/Vietnamese food.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:34 am to LaFlyer
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Pretty similar to buildings you see in both New Orleans and parts of Santo Domingo.
Another thing the average American doesn't know about Louisiana...
The architecture is Spanish, not French.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:37 am to Corkfather
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Once you get out of the US, most people have no idea what/where Louisiana, and even New Orleans, is.
Nor do they really care. But you can say that for most US states.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 1:46 am to Corkfather
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The architecture is Spanish, not French.
No you're incorrect. Not entirely incorrect but if you travel to enough former colonies the French style very evident. Not the Versailles or Normandy style seen on the continent, but very much indeed consistent in form throughout.
And in my quote you failed to include the Vietnam portion, which I believe is almost exclusively French influenced.
This post was edited on 7/21/14 at 1:49 am
Posted on 7/21/14 at 4:09 am to LaFlyer
Baton Rouge was the site of an American Revolutionary War battle despite the fact that we wouldn't become a state for another 33 years.
Also, the Indian mounds here were built over 1000 years before the Egyptian pyramids were started.
Also, the Indian mounds here were built over 1000 years before the Egyptian pyramids were started.
Posted on 7/21/14 at 5:50 am to Corkfather
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I am of Creole descent, my great-great-great-grandfather (not sure how many "greats", but you get the idea) was a General in Napoleon's army and was sent to govern the French colony of Saint-Domingue, the island that now emcompasses Haiti and the Dominican Republic. When the slave rebellion happened, he was forced to flee to the nearest French-held territory, New Orleans, and the rest is history; we have no "African" blood whatsoever.
and there's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow...
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
this creole royalty thing is pretty funny...kinda like all the Africans who trace their roots to kings and queens..a Creole is a mixed race/ethinicty...that what a Creole is..if you don't want to be that, fine, don't tell people you're a Creole, but to pretend you're some kind of faux prince is just silly
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