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re: Why do people on this board think they know better than the coaching staff?

Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:06 pm to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:06 pm to
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I can tell you one thing keeping Jefferson in that game was a stupid decision.


perfect example of the nitwits on here. They never think things through as to what the alternatives would be.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 9:07 pm to


Please
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5365 posts
Posted on 7/19/14 at 11:49 pm to
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perfect example of the nitwits on here. They never think things through as to what the alternatives would be.


I would love to flesh out this argument being that we could have just gone without a qb and with ten guys and been only slightly less effective than with Jefferson in the game.
Please enlighten me the dumb fan.

I'm guessing that the fans were stupid when they pointed out the dual def coord weren't really working out or that Crowton needed to move on too?
This post was edited on 7/19/14 at 11:51 pm
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:41 am to
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I'm guessing that the fans were stupid when they pointed out the dual def coord weren't really working out
first, other teams have had dual coordinators that worked out. the concept itself isn't flawed.

it has been reported that when pellini left, miles was unable to get an acceptable permanent replacement and was stuck with malleveto. this is further confirmed in that miles landed chavis the next year. in other words, he did the best he could for a year and then hit a home run. but you seem to be suggesting that the fans could see it wasn't working and somehow got word to him which changed his mind. now, which of the 2 scenarios is more likely?

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Crowton needed to move on too?
it looks to me like miles gave it a chance but eventually discovered that they weren't on the same page. it happens with many other programs. at least he made an adjustment.
Posted by LSUANDY25
Frisco
Member since Dec 2012
3087 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 3:48 am to
at least he made an adjustment.
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Making the correct adjustment is one of his strongest points. This man finds a way to keep his program strong, no matter what.

Look around at all the programs and see the very few that do this annually that have similar resources.
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
107654 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:18 am to
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Why do people on this board think they know better than the coaching staff?


And yet another in a series of rant thread titles they makes me roll my eyes.
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:44 am to
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Please enlighten me the dumb fan.


Anyone suggesting JJ was the reason we loss that game is a dumb fan.

Anyone suggesting JL was in any kind of mental shape to have made a difference is a blind and dumb fan.

I at fans who have no fricking clue as to what is going on behind closed locker room doors or staff meeting, but pretend as only they and their clown buds are some how in the know when they really don't know shite just like the rest of us.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:49 am to
You sound like Gray Tiger with the holier than thou, no one can make any commentary except me schtick. It's a wide open sports forum, learn to deal with adversity, you will have a less stressful experience here if you do.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32453 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:55 am to
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it looks to me like miles gave it a chance but eventually discovered
. He 'eventually discovers' things about 2 years too late, waaay after fans and media already have. That's the point.

"Makes adjustments". Anyone can make adjustments after observing that something sucks for two years. Making adjustments on the fly or quickly despite the odds against you is the sign of a smart coach. Miles has been roundly criticized for being stubborn and not doing this, and rightly so.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 9:50 am to
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He 'eventually discovers' things about 2 years too late, waaay after fans and media already have. That's the point.


Seeing a problem is often pretty easy. Fixing a problem can be a lot more complicated. Schools like Michigan, Neb., Tenn., or Miami once had proud football programs. Now, not so much. You think they haven't seen the problem or tried to fix it? Bama has a F/G kicking problem for a few yrs and judging by last season, he still hasn't fixed it.

Miles has had great results at LSU and those kinda results don't happen if a HC has a problem being "2 years too late" discovering or fixing problem. imo


Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 10:53 am to
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I at fans who have no fricking clue as to what is going on behind closed locker room doors or staff meeting, but pretend as only they and their clown buds are some how in the know when they really don't know shite just like the rest of us.



My 2 roommates were on the team from 2007-2011, and the players were just as infuriated as the fans about the JLee situation after the national title game

quote:

Anyone suggesting JL was in any kind of mental shape to have made a difference is a blind and dumb fan.



What does that even mean? He rebounded pretty nicely from the 2008 mental beatdown he took by the fans.

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Anyone suggesting JJ was the reason we loss that game is a dumb fan.



The blame falls on the offense. He's the leader of the offense. While the Oline didn't do him any favors, he played especially terrible. Alabama had no respect for our passing game.

Anyone who suggests that we shouldn't have played Lee is dumb as a fan. We had 92 yards of offense.

Jefferson had 83 yards combined through the air in his final 2 games for a passer rating of less than 10

You have to try something new after 7 quarters of pure shite. Put in Mett if need be
This post was edited on 7/20/14 at 11:08 am
Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2009
23064 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 12:47 pm to
Threads bitching about people bitching are the lowest form of Internet.

This thread needs to DIAF.
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5365 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 3:02 pm to
You know sometimes shite is just so obvious that a knowledgeable fan base sees thru the bullshite.

I have never said that Lee would have won the game. But he deserved a shot. Hell the rest of the team deserved in the least for the coaches to try something different.

All I hear from you guys is the same shite for two years. Lee couldn't do it. Well we will never know. But he looked decent the whole year til JJ came back. And I'm not even hating on JJ cause he helped win the 9-0 game.

I'm not a miles hater. I like him. A lot. But he f'ed up that decision.

And nothing has changed that in two years.

Sometimes fans are correct?
But please keep trying to convince me.
Posted by geauxjo
Gonzales, LA
Member since Sep 2004
14721 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

please keep trying to convince me


Therein lies the answer. People that believe in Les Miles and trust him as a coach leave room for blanks that will never be filled in. Like the possibility that JL had done something that put him in a position to not be inserted into the game yet LM didn't want to hurt the young mans reputation by divulging it. Or a host of other scenarios. We trust a coach who had just won 12 straight games. No one has to convince me.

Then there are those who don't like him. Don't trust him. Or have an anti Miles agenda and no answers will ever suffice. Most fall into one of the two camps.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:04 pm to
How bout the people bitching bout the people bitching bout the people bitching?

I
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18137 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 4:14 pm to
In reply to the OP... because it's a flicking message board. You know, the type where people give their opinions. And those people are typically passionate fans.

Does that clear it up for you?
Posted by tigerlore
Member since Feb 2013
217 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 5:23 pm to
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Does that clear it up for you ?
Yea I think I get it. If you are a passionate football fan your opinions are reasonable and intelligent. If only the coaches had that same level of passion for the game.
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36317 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 7:23 pm to
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How do u measure it Louie T?

I certainly wouldn't measure IQs by salary.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:06 pm to
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He 'eventually discovers' things about 2 years too late
you have no idea if the available replacements were better options or if better replacements were available. again, fan stupidity

quote:

waaay after fans and media already have
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 7/20/14 at 8:09 pm to
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a knowledgeable fan base
that's the point of this thread. there is no fan base that's more knowledgeable than the staff

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But he f'ed up that decision.
you have no idea whether you're right or not and it doesn't even matter what the players thought. they don't know everything either. they aren't coaches who are immersed in coaching information
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