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re: Asik trade a 3 teamer between NO/HOU/WASH... Pels also to get Casspi
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:45 pm to chesty
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:45 pm to chesty
July 13: Rockets Turn Ariza Signing Into Sign-and-Trade
Rockets get: Forwards Trevor Ariza, Alonzo Gee and Scotty Hopson, protected New Orleans 2015 first-round pick
Pelicans get: Forward Omri Casspi, center Omer Asik, cash considerations
Wizards get: Center Melvin Ely
Houston Rockets: A-
This three-team trade is essentially two separate transactions. One is the completion of the trade sending Asik to the Pelicans, which I previously graded when it was first reported before the NBA draft.
The other turns the signing of Ariza, reported Saturday, into a sign-and-trade instead of an outright free-agent signing. That allows the Rockets to stay over the cap, maintaining their full midlevel exception as well as the $8.3 million trade exception created with Friday's ill-fated trade sending Jeremy Lin to the L.A. Lakers. As compared to then, when we thought Houston was getting Chris Bosh, this is obviously a disappointing outcome, but as usual the Rockets will have flexibility. And the Asik trade was one they made before adding Bosh became a realistic possibility.
New Orleans Pelicans: C-
This deal is slightly better for the Pelicans than originally graded. Trading for the nonguaranteed contracts of Gee and Hopson allows them to trade by matching salaries rather than fitting Asik under the cap, which keeps them from having to trade a player (likely Austin Rivers) to clear space. And New Orleans was able to get Casspi from the Rockets, giving a little more depth to a thin bench.
Still, the Pelicans had to go under the cap to pull off this sequence of moves, forfeiting their $5.3 million midlevel exception for the smaller $2.65 million room exception. New Orleans also had to renounce its rights to free agents Al-Farouq Aminu and Jason Smith, leaving the team with only the room exception and minimum-salary contracts to fill out the roster. Besides costing a first-round pick, trading for Asik will also weaken the team's depth.
Washington Wizards: B+
The Wizards are fortunate that this three-team trade came together, as they gain a valuable trade exception for the amount of Ariza's first-year salary ($8.5 million). Ely's veteran's minimum contract is nonguaranteed through Aug. 1, per Mark Deeks, so Washington doesn't have to add any payroll in the deal.
Rockets get: Forwards Trevor Ariza, Alonzo Gee and Scotty Hopson, protected New Orleans 2015 first-round pick
Pelicans get: Forward Omri Casspi, center Omer Asik, cash considerations
Wizards get: Center Melvin Ely
Houston Rockets: A-
This three-team trade is essentially two separate transactions. One is the completion of the trade sending Asik to the Pelicans, which I previously graded when it was first reported before the NBA draft.
The other turns the signing of Ariza, reported Saturday, into a sign-and-trade instead of an outright free-agent signing. That allows the Rockets to stay over the cap, maintaining their full midlevel exception as well as the $8.3 million trade exception created with Friday's ill-fated trade sending Jeremy Lin to the L.A. Lakers. As compared to then, when we thought Houston was getting Chris Bosh, this is obviously a disappointing outcome, but as usual the Rockets will have flexibility. And the Asik trade was one they made before adding Bosh became a realistic possibility.
New Orleans Pelicans: C-
This deal is slightly better for the Pelicans than originally graded. Trading for the nonguaranteed contracts of Gee and Hopson allows them to trade by matching salaries rather than fitting Asik under the cap, which keeps them from having to trade a player (likely Austin Rivers) to clear space. And New Orleans was able to get Casspi from the Rockets, giving a little more depth to a thin bench.
Still, the Pelicans had to go under the cap to pull off this sequence of moves, forfeiting their $5.3 million midlevel exception for the smaller $2.65 million room exception. New Orleans also had to renounce its rights to free agents Al-Farouq Aminu and Jason Smith, leaving the team with only the room exception and minimum-salary contracts to fill out the roster. Besides costing a first-round pick, trading for Asik will also weaken the team's depth.
Washington Wizards: B+
The Wizards are fortunate that this three-team trade came together, as they gain a valuable trade exception for the amount of Ariza's first-year salary ($8.5 million). Ely's veteran's minimum contract is nonguaranteed through Aug. 1, per Mark Deeks, so Washington doesn't have to add any payroll in the deal.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:50 pm to Jwho77
quote:Kevin Pelton:
Grading the grader: F
Co-author, Pro Basketball Prospectus series
Formerly a consultant with the Indiana Pacers
Developed WARP rating and SCHOENE system
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:51 pm to patendedgmf
I don't give a frick. He gets an F here.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:54 pm to patendedgmf
quote:
giving a little more depth to a thin bench.
I would not say our bench is thin
quote:
forfeiting their $5.3 million midlevel exception for the smaller $2.65 million room exception
No one really left to get with the MLE anyway.
quote:
New Orleans also had to renounce its rights to free agents Al-Farouq Aminu and Jason Smith, leaving the team with only the room exception and minimum-salary contracts to fill out the roster. Besides costing a first-round pick, trading for Asik will also weaken the team's depth.
AFA and smith are uneeded with Anderson and Young who might play the 4 at times. They can get all of the "depth" they want when EG is gone.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:56 pm to LosLobos111
The roster is almost already full as it is. I can see why "championship-winning executive" is not listed on his resume. Writers gonna write.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 8:59 pm to S
What is the protection on the pick? The Pelicans probably received at least 50% of cost of buying their future late 1st round pick.
The Pelicans do not have a thin bench.
The Pelicans do not have a thin bench.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:08 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
quote:
Oh Fletch Gordon will be starting
Honestly, that makes sense if Asik is starting; unless Tyreke learns to shoot this summer, of course.
Holiday
Gordon
Evans/Casspi
Davis
Asik
Evans and Asik should rarely see the court together. Let Evans and Anderson sub for Gordon and Asik.
Rivers
Gordon
Tyreke
Anderson
Davis
Tyreke
Gordon
Casspi
Anderson
Davis
Jrue
Gordon
Tyreke
Anderson
Asik
The idea of having actual NBA rotations is very exciting. If Monty can't compete with this roster (barring terrifying thoughts), he needs to go. We do still need a 3 that defends, though.
Have you met All Farouq?
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:13 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
WTF?? Wishes for Aminu?
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:13 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
Too bad Aminu is not actually a good defender.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Shhh...stop. Save that for when he signs with someone else.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:23 pm to Galactic Inquisitor
I wonder what someone in the know would say about Casspi vs Ryno playing the 3
We've long said Anderson has no business playing the 3. Is there much difference between he and Casspi?
Casspi logged a lot of minutes at the 3 in his younger years, but since he's filled out I'm not convinced he's any more agile than Anderson
We've long said Anderson has no business playing the 3. Is there much difference between he and Casspi?
Casspi logged a lot of minutes at the 3 in his younger years, but since he's filled out I'm not convinced he's any more agile than Anderson
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:24 pm to Jwho77
quote:
Too bad Aminu is not actually a good defender.
Actually, he's pretty decent on D.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:26 pm to VOR
I SAID SHHHHH. You're ruining my narrative here.
#Ride4Marion
#Ride4Marion
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:55 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:
What is the protection on the pick?
Wondering the same thing.
Posted on 7/13/14 at 9:59 pm to Hank Marducas
Unless it has changed it was top 3 protected and 20+ protected.
Which sounds way worse than it is. Last season was basically worse case scenario (due to injuries) and the Pels pick was 10. Giving up a pick in the 11-20 range isn't a really big deal (compared to receiving Asik).
Which sounds way worse than it is. Last season was basically worse case scenario (due to injuries) and the Pels pick was 10. Giving up a pick in the 11-20 range isn't a really big deal (compared to receiving Asik).
This post was edited on 7/13/14 at 10:00 pm
Posted on 7/13/14 at 10:11 pm to patendedgmf
Really hope somebody in the western conference hires Pelton so he can frick their team up
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