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3 weeks vs 4 week vacation
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:53 pm
For all you analytical folks out there, if you take a job that is only giving you 3 weeks vacation when you have 4 weeks now, do you factor that into the new offer monetarily?
So if you're making $150k/year right now that's about $2678/week.
So if my number to take a new job is $160k, wouldn't I want to increase that to $162,678 to make it the raise plus the lost week of vacation?
Or am I over analyzing this?!?!
So if you're making $150k/year right now that's about $2678/week.
So if my number to take a new job is $160k, wouldn't I want to increase that to $162,678 to make it the raise plus the lost week of vacation?
Or am I over analyzing this?!?!
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:57 pm to Im4datigers
I'm assuming if you're making that kind of money, you are well educated and successful. That makes this question even more puzzling
Oh, my answer is yes, you are definitely over analyzing. Be happy someone is paying you $160,000 and you get to enjoy 3 weeks of vacation. Although if you are happy with where you currently work, would you rather the 6% increase in pay or an extra week off?
Oh, my answer is yes, you are definitely over analyzing. Be happy someone is paying you $160,000 and you get to enjoy 3 weeks of vacation. Although if you are happy with where you currently work, would you rather the 6% increase in pay or an extra week off?
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 2:59 pm to Im4datigers
I dont think you're over-analyzing it, but that's just me. I would want at least the extra $2600. I would actually probably want more.
Honestly, assuming all other things equal, I would probably take 150k with 4 weeks vacation over 160k with 3 weeks. Unless I knew I would earn more quickly.
ETA: to clarify, just because I would want it, doesn't mean I would expect it. I was just saying that I would consider vacation as a factor for sure.
Honestly, assuming all other things equal, I would probably take 150k with 4 weeks vacation over 160k with 3 weeks. Unless I knew I would earn more quickly.
ETA: to clarify, just because I would want it, doesn't mean I would expect it. I was just saying that I would consider vacation as a factor for sure.
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:06 pm to Im4datigers
I'd rather have that extra week than 2k
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:15 pm to Im4datigers
It would factor in to my decision. As someone else stated, I think I'd take 150k and 4 weeks over 160k and 3 weeks. Also, I don't think I'd leave a job over a ~6% raise, if I were making 150k+. That is, unless there were other contributing factors (advancement, much better benefits, more stable company, etc...).
You could probably ask for more money due to a decrease in their benefits package versus what you were receiving at your old company. I don't think that it would be out of line or unreasonable.
You could probably ask for more money due to a decrease in their benefits package versus what you were receiving at your old company. I don't think that it would be out of line or unreasonable.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 3:26 pm to Im4datigers
Tell them you currently get 4 weeks of time off, and ask if you can have 4? My company, as well as several of our competitors, will either match your time off or give you an added 1-2 weeks off immediately upon your hiring.
Another question to ask is,
- With the new company will you ever be able to get 4 weeks off and if so, how many years will it take?
- Does the new company offer a better opportunity to grow and receive improved raises?
I think if it takes around ~3 years to get bumped up from 3 weeks off to 4, or the company offers better growth/pay raises then it might be the better deal in the end. Definitely bargain for a week of time off when you sign your paper work so that you will get some of the time your losing back.
Another question to ask is,
- With the new company will you ever be able to get 4 weeks off and if so, how many years will it take?
- Does the new company offer a better opportunity to grow and receive improved raises?
I think if it takes around ~3 years to get bumped up from 3 weeks off to 4, or the company offers better growth/pay raises then it might be the better deal in the end. Definitely bargain for a week of time off when you sign your paper work so that you will get some of the time your losing back.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:24 pm to Im4datigers
I find it hard to use all 3 weeks I have now
And its not hard to figure out how to swing a day here and there 5 times. Are you going to take 4, full weeks, at various times?
And its not hard to figure out how to swing a day here and there 5 times. Are you going to take 4, full weeks, at various times?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:28 pm to Im4datigers
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Or am I over analyzing this?!?!
No, you are not. My advice go for everything you can get. Go forward knowing you gave your best effort and have no regrets.
I recently was offered a job at another firm. I negotiated a matching offer from my current employer ($11,000 raise and not quite at $160,000, but not far behind). I also wanted an extra week of vacation because the new firm offered 4 weeks. I got the extra week and stayed. I have a better work relationship with my management than i had previously. I am happy with what i make now.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 4:32 pm to Im4datigers
Not overanalyzing IMO, but I think it's more important to consider what is important to you. $2k or an extra week off.
Can you purchase vacation time?
Are their hours more flexible, or do you have an alternative schedule/working arrangement? When do you get to 4 weeks?
Can you purchase vacation time?
Are their hours more flexible, or do you have an alternative schedule/working arrangement? When do you get to 4 weeks?
Posted on 6/24/14 at 6:05 pm to Im4datigers
I went from 28 days to 18 days about a month ago. I certainly used that info in my counter offer.
Posted on 6/24/14 at 9:18 pm to Im4datigers
I had the same situation a few years ago - the hiring Exec VP said there was nothing he could do about it. At my final interview the President walked in and asked how things were and if there was anything he could do . I mentioned the vacation discrepancy and he immediately said. We cannot change the policy but if you need an extra day off every now and then just let me know- it is not a problem- He basically gave me the extra 5 days vacation off the books.
Posted on 6/25/14 at 11:38 am to Im4datigers
Honestly... I dont even know how I could manage to be away from the office for 4 weeks throughout the year--especially at that salary level. I just have too many key responsibilities.
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