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re: Buying stock long term

Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:20 am to
Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:20 am to
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Do you understand this concept? Have you done the math on this? I'm just curious, because 8-10 dividends of 2% is the same as 1 dividend of 2% assuming the balance of your whole portfolio is the same.


No. I don't understand it at all. I've asked before, but no one has explained.

Also, I'm shooting for 3-4% yield, but I'm assuming thats irrelevant to your argument.

ETA: Say I invested in VYM...my annual dividend would be about $1.60 per share? is that right?
This post was edited on 6/24/14 at 11:32 am
Posted by kennypowers816
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2010
2446 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 11:42 am to
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Also, I'm shooting for 3-4% yield, but I'm assuming thats irrelevant to your argument.


Correct, that is irrelevant for this particular point.

quote:

No. I don't understand it at all


Ok, I'm going to try to keep as simple as possible. It's not a real life example but it will work for this math problem.

First, lets assume the value of your portfolio is $100k in both scenarios.

Scenario A: The portfolio is equally weighted among your choice of 8 dividend paying stocks that average to 2.89% yield.

Scenario B: All in with VHDYX (Vanguard High Dividend Yield Index Fund) at 2.89% yield.


With scenario A, your dividend income would be 100k x 2.89%. = $2,890

With scenario B, your dividend income would be 100k x 2.89%. = $2,890

The point is that the quantity of dividend payments does not change the amount of income. The income is calculated from multiplying your balance times the yield (whether its made up of 8 stocks or 1 fund).

Like I said, that's keeping it very simple to just show you that 8-10 is not necessarily better than 1. I'll post a follow-up shortly explaining the other factors that drastically complicate things.
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
51918 posts
Posted on 6/24/14 at 12:57 pm to
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No. I don't understand it at all. I've asked before, but no one has explained.


The problem is risk vs gains.


Diversification limits the risk.

And if you are long term buy and hold, that emphasizes the risk of not being diversified.

It's almost always a bad idea to START by buying company stocks. Get a diversified core first.

Oh, BTW, the dividend fund I was in diversifies across all sectors and payouts were over 5% on the year between dividend and capital gain distributions.
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