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re: Career Opportunity Help
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:12 pm to ccitiger2011
Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:12 pm to ccitiger2011
How about the military get 4 years gi bill & look into a tech field plus veterans pref on many jobs.
Have you ever thought about commercial mowing? Cost to do business is cheep you like sales go sell yourself it's refreshing for a clean cut English speaking person to ask me about landscaping work.
Have you ever thought about commercial mowing? Cost to do business is cheep you like sales go sell yourself it's refreshing for a clean cut English speaking person to ask me about landscaping work.
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Posted on 5/26/14 at 1:55 pm to Cracker
You sound like a very intelligent type A guy, and would probably make an excellent salesman. A salute to you for trying every avenue, including here. Most of this advice is good, remember to aim for something you think you will truly enjoy doing. It wont matter if you find a great job and you hate it. I would consider putting off another child until you decide, and i very rarely would say that. Be certain you want an MBA. If you can narrow down your likes and dislikes you may concentrate on a field that wants a specific degree - construction, engineering, etc. just know what you want - you may even try aptitude testing (which i did and came up the same everytime 
). Good luck man!
). Good luck man!
Posted on 5/26/14 at 3:30 pm to jeffsdad
Cracker, as much as I truly do respect each person who has ever went into the armed forces , I myself rather not. I love my son and fiance too much to leave them. My father was rarely there for me as a child and I want to be a much better father! Thanks so much though sir!!
Jeffsdad, thanks a-lot for the advice as well!!
Your words are very encouraging , especially today when much is needed. I will for sure look into the aptitude test and go from there.
Hope everyone is having a great day!
Jeffsdad, thanks a-lot for the advice as well!!
Your words are very encouraging , especially today when much is needed. I will for sure look into the aptitude test and go from there.
Hope everyone is having a great day!
Posted on 5/26/14 at 8:19 pm to ccitiger2011
So as somebody who has done a lot of resume screening and interviewing over the years, let me give you a first-blush reaction after reading only your Linkedin profile..
Observations:
- Linkedin "Summary" is vague, self-focused, and boilerplate; which typically means that candidate doesn't quite have a sense of how the business world works just yet or that he needs to tell the company how he will improve it, not the other way around; will give the benefit of the doubt and assume just trying to hard to build a perfect linkedin profile
- Has been out on his own for three months (business owner) and already looking for a new job; maybe not working out like he expected
- Prior role as a supervisor for only 8 months, in a role that focused on keeping the job site running smoothly and also customer interaction. Why only 8 months? Didn't like it? Not performing well?
- So long-term role before both of those short stints was delivering materials with some amount of manual labor, customer relations, and record keeping associated. Probably has a good work ethic and good head on his shoulders. Was this job his ceiling?
Key Questions:
- Why the move from truck driver / delivery to site supervision / sales? Probably just trying to make a good career move, but what was he expecting in the new role? Good sign that he is ambitious and moving out of his comfort zone, but something didn't work out.
- Have him talk through a lot of the situations (behaviorial interviewing) with both customer relations and site supervision in his role for 8 months. Something didn't work out here. Having him talk through how he approached the situations should help zero in on whether it was an issue with him, his employer, or just the situation not working out.
- Why the move to start his own remodeling business instead of finding a different job or another role within the company? Was this a last resort or misplaced optimism? Understand the things that he liked both most and least about the prior job that led to this being a preferable move.
- How has he been building the business, finding and keeping customers, in his remodeling company and also in the prior business? Does he have a knack for this, or does it sound like maybe sales is not his thing? Again, behavioral interviewing, talking through some examples.
- Does this guy have a feel for numbers at all, in terms of how much inventory, dollars, etc he was moving, his big customers, etc? What were his most important numbers to hit as an employee to help the company's profits and how well was he hitting them?
Summary:
Overall I would say think about some of the questions above, redo or preferably remove your Summary on LinkedIn, and tap those "amazing references" all you can once you figure exactly what you want to do. You may not know the specific role, but you should at least know the parts of the job that get you most excited every day.
I hope you don't take my comments as harsh. I respect that you laid everything out here and figured I would take the time to offer some frank and hopefully useful feedback. FYI, I work in finance and engineering so take my comments for what they are worth related to construction and sales!
Best of luck to you!
Observations:
- Linkedin "Summary" is vague, self-focused, and boilerplate; which typically means that candidate doesn't quite have a sense of how the business world works just yet or that he needs to tell the company how he will improve it, not the other way around; will give the benefit of the doubt and assume just trying to hard to build a perfect linkedin profile
- Has been out on his own for three months (business owner) and already looking for a new job; maybe not working out like he expected
- Prior role as a supervisor for only 8 months, in a role that focused on keeping the job site running smoothly and also customer interaction. Why only 8 months? Didn't like it? Not performing well?
- So long-term role before both of those short stints was delivering materials with some amount of manual labor, customer relations, and record keeping associated. Probably has a good work ethic and good head on his shoulders. Was this job his ceiling?
Key Questions:
- Why the move from truck driver / delivery to site supervision / sales? Probably just trying to make a good career move, but what was he expecting in the new role? Good sign that he is ambitious and moving out of his comfort zone, but something didn't work out.
- Have him talk through a lot of the situations (behaviorial interviewing) with both customer relations and site supervision in his role for 8 months. Something didn't work out here. Having him talk through how he approached the situations should help zero in on whether it was an issue with him, his employer, or just the situation not working out.
- Why the move to start his own remodeling business instead of finding a different job or another role within the company? Was this a last resort or misplaced optimism? Understand the things that he liked both most and least about the prior job that led to this being a preferable move.
- How has he been building the business, finding and keeping customers, in his remodeling company and also in the prior business? Does he have a knack for this, or does it sound like maybe sales is not his thing? Again, behavioral interviewing, talking through some examples.
- Does this guy have a feel for numbers at all, in terms of how much inventory, dollars, etc he was moving, his big customers, etc? What were his most important numbers to hit as an employee to help the company's profits and how well was he hitting them?
Summary:
Overall I would say think about some of the questions above, redo or preferably remove your Summary on LinkedIn, and tap those "amazing references" all you can once you figure exactly what you want to do. You may not know the specific role, but you should at least know the parts of the job that get you most excited every day.
I hope you don't take my comments as harsh. I respect that you laid everything out here and figured I would take the time to offer some frank and hopefully useful feedback. FYI, I work in finance and engineering so take my comments for what they are worth related to construction and sales!
Best of luck to you!
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:04 pm to Bayou Tiger
spot on.
I agree with you love your fiancé and child etc…. but every military person does not get shipped off. You might be geographically un-employable. hell good car salesmen do very well. look at your options don't stay in xyz because her momma is there you may have to move to take care of your family.
I agree with you love your fiancé and child etc…. but every military person does not get shipped off. You might be geographically un-employable. hell good car salesmen do very well. look at your options don't stay in xyz because her momma is there you may have to move to take care of your family.
Posted on 5/26/14 at 9:11 pm to Bayou Tiger
Damn, that was a thoughtful, kind thing to do for the guy 
Posted on 5/26/14 at 10:27 pm to ccitiger2011
Mr. Frye,
First off, Anyone who is trying to better their situation in life, especially when there is a child/family involved, gets a "atta boy" in my book.
I'm a firm believer that in order to have a steady job, you need some education and you need some skill. You don't need a bachelor's degree... you might not even need an associate's degree... but you need some post-high-school education (especially since our high schools no longer teach trade skills).
Traditionally the three fields where you didn't need a bachelor's degree, yet could make good money, were sales, factories/plants/refineries, and construction/trade/mechanic. Sales these days, though, they want to see a college degree. Doesn't have to be in any particular area... just a degree. You might be able to do sales without a degree in a small family type company. I don't know any of those that are hiring salespeople.
But it can be done. A friend of mine has about a year of college behind him, and worked for a while in physical jobs (carpet cleaning, convention booth assembly) as well as worked in hotels (mainly in banquet setup). About 6 months ago, he got a job doing inside sales for a marine safety company. Obviously, a drastic change in career. But he's always had that "sales" mentality to him. How did he get the job? Someone his wife knew became the sales manager at the company, and hired my friend to take his place at the lower level. Now he works 8-5 and makes good, not great money, and he's recently married and also trying to have a kid. He wanted normal, weekday hours.
Another option to consider is all these plants that are hiring and are going to be opening in the next few years. I have a bunch of friends that work at refineries, and most of them couldn't spell J-O-B if spotted two of the letters. However, they are very handy people, and got all the education they needed from a community college program (which the refinery paid for part of it, I think). Another good friend is a plumber, works his rear off, but makes great money and provides for his family. He actually got some deal with the union where they paid for all his training and education, because apparently there is a plumber shortage!
Again, good luck. I know it's hard out there, my sister graduated this past December with a bachelor's degree and can't find a job, she has gone on four interviews, and three of them are ones I got her through my connections.
First off, Anyone who is trying to better their situation in life, especially when there is a child/family involved, gets a "atta boy" in my book.
I'm a firm believer that in order to have a steady job, you need some education and you need some skill. You don't need a bachelor's degree... you might not even need an associate's degree... but you need some post-high-school education (especially since our high schools no longer teach trade skills).
Traditionally the three fields where you didn't need a bachelor's degree, yet could make good money, were sales, factories/plants/refineries, and construction/trade/mechanic. Sales these days, though, they want to see a college degree. Doesn't have to be in any particular area... just a degree. You might be able to do sales without a degree in a small family type company. I don't know any of those that are hiring salespeople.
But it can be done. A friend of mine has about a year of college behind him, and worked for a while in physical jobs (carpet cleaning, convention booth assembly) as well as worked in hotels (mainly in banquet setup). About 6 months ago, he got a job doing inside sales for a marine safety company. Obviously, a drastic change in career. But he's always had that "sales" mentality to him. How did he get the job? Someone his wife knew became the sales manager at the company, and hired my friend to take his place at the lower level. Now he works 8-5 and makes good, not great money, and he's recently married and also trying to have a kid. He wanted normal, weekday hours.
Another option to consider is all these plants that are hiring and are going to be opening in the next few years. I have a bunch of friends that work at refineries, and most of them couldn't spell J-O-B if spotted two of the letters. However, they are very handy people, and got all the education they needed from a community college program (which the refinery paid for part of it, I think). Another good friend is a plumber, works his rear off, but makes great money and provides for his family. He actually got some deal with the union where they paid for all his training and education, because apparently there is a plumber shortage!
Again, good luck. I know it's hard out there, my sister graduated this past December with a bachelor's degree and can't find a job, she has gone on four interviews, and three of them are ones I got her through my connections.
Posted on 5/28/14 at 3:43 pm to LSUFanHouston
Sorry for the late response but thanks alot LSUFanHouston I greatly appreciate it.
Very good information that I will take notice of . Very thankful
Very good information that I will take notice of . Very thankful
Posted on 5/28/14 at 9:52 pm to ccitiger2011
Hang in there you will be fine keep yourself motivated don't get discouraged keep plowing away you will get what you want.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 8:56 am to Cracker
I Appreciate the positive words Cracker!
Posted on 5/29/14 at 12:31 pm to ccitiger2011
Either way you are going to have to get some education and probably also take a lower level job somewhere and prove that you are capable. Unless you have someone willing to stick their neck out for you (you don't if you did they already would have) to get you a job that is the way the business world works. Start at the bottom do good work and earn your promotion.
Posted on 5/29/14 at 1:36 pm to ccitiger2011
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ccitiger2011
Have you ever thought about sales at an AT&T type place? I know it's probably not what you have in mind but I think they do decent (guessing $40,000-$50,000). I know a guy who is one and claims he makes over $70,000 but he lies about every detail of his life so I don't put any stock into that. I think the hours are flexible and you could potentially go to school for your business degree at night. Just a thought.
Posted on 5/30/14 at 11:09 pm to CQQ
As if job opportunity wasn't enough today, the devil tried striking again with more issues....My fiance was on highway early this morning going east bound on highway 90 heading to her part time job and hydroplaned into median causing her to spin doing a complete 360 then caused her to go into opposite side of highway facing oncoming traffic then into the woods head-on into a tree. She was doing speed limit in the rain and the car simply lifted up. Thank God she is fine. Did test and all came back negative she is just very very sore tonight and resting up. Just wanted to share Gods grace and faithfulness even in the hard times. Yes i'm looking for a job and now our second car is gone and wasn't covered by gap but my wonderful fiance is safe and walked away.
She ended up hydroplaning around 200ft into median and on coming traffic and is safe and sound with our son and I tonight. Such a blessing.
Just wanted to share something good out of so much bad with everyone because i'm so very thankful.
I also want to add that this past Jan 24 I found my own brother dead in his house on the floor. I like to belive in Angels.. Well his personal Bible was sitting on my fiances back seat from this past Wednesdays church service(I like to use his Bible because he kept alot of helpful notes in it and it also makes me feel close to him)...I believe he is part of the reason she is safe, God is great.
Gotta have faith !
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She ended up hydroplaning around 200ft into median and on coming traffic and is safe and sound with our son and I tonight. Such a blessing.
Just wanted to share something good out of so much bad with everyone because i'm so very thankful.
I also want to add that this past Jan 24 I found my own brother dead in his house on the floor. I like to belive in Angels.. Well his personal Bible was sitting on my fiances back seat from this past Wednesdays church service(I like to use his Bible because he kept alot of helpful notes in it and it also makes me feel close to him)...I believe he is part of the reason she is safe, God is great.
Gotta have faith !
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Posted on 5/31/14 at 12:02 am to ccitiger2011
WOW man.
Glad to hear she is fine and alive
Glad to hear she is fine and alive
Posted on 5/31/14 at 2:10 pm to Paedin
Very thankful !!
Thanks man
Thanks man
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:47 pm to ccitiger2011
quote:
I could sell carpet to a carpet salesman if put on the spot!
Do not say this because they will think that means you could get them to hire you on the spot and when you fail to do so...
Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:10 am to ccitiger2011
frick school, man. Get in somewhere that you know is a good company to work for. Room for advancement, good benefits, decent pay. Sure, your won't be getting top $ to start, but you also won't be acruing debt like you would if you went back to school. Most importantly, live within your means until you start making decent $. I'm about to switch careers at 29. Do inside sales now with a fastener company and am trying to get on with Publix. I'll be starting as a selector in the warehouse (not the bottom bottom, but far from the top). My uncle went to work for them at 38 and in 10 years has climbed the ladder all the way to Super-intendant of his city. Publix is year in and year out on the Forbes top 100 list of best places to work, which is why I'm making the move. It's not where you start man, it's how and where you finish.
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Glad to hear she is fine and alive
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 8:12 am
Posted on 6/5/14 at 10:57 am to ccitiger2011
I had a interview with vp of a local cement company that has about 5 plants. I was offered $3500/month with company truck, company card, company phone , and all benefits. Off every other weekend. Would be in charge of outside sales around my whole parish to get jobs. I know a lot of contractors so this will help . He was very very open and nice. He actuallyhad me over to his personal house for dinner and drinks then offered me. Was very nice and was sure to tell me I wouldn't be just a worker I would be family and he wants to to retire from there . Mentioned quarterly bonuses with radishes often upon me doing well . Also said he never wants to see me go to a place for a loan that if I ever need anything to come to him and ask and he will positively help out. Offered me his camps and even said I will have all the opportunities I want to go to events with him or to use companies event tickets for myself . He spoke highly of me and said though I lack the schooling or education he feels real world experience is more important to him . He felt I had the personality and energy to be a great salesman with his company . He extended the offer to me and said sleep on it and talk it over to your fiancé and let me know .
I'm going to call him back in the next few hours and would love advice as far as to how to negogiate a higher salary with him . He knows it is coming for the simple fact he is hiring me for sales .
And also what do you think about the incentives that e is offering me ? Thanks
I'm going to call him back in the next few hours and would love advice as far as to how to negogiate a higher salary with him . He knows it is coming for the simple fact he is hiring me for sales .
And also what do you think about the incentives that e is offering me ? Thanks
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:02 am to ccitiger2011
Take it. When you accept, ask for a better incentive/bonus package for when you do well/make sales. Get whatever the bonus/incentive parameters are in writing. Tell him you you want to do well when you help him do well. Bust arse, profit.
Posted on 6/5/14 at 11:06 am to Costanza
Thanks a lot I appreciate the advice about getting it in writing!
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