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re: Will demographics doom the state's potential oil and gas economic boom?
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:16 am to hondurantiger
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:16 am to hondurantiger
From Baton Rouge west down toward Corpas Christie(sp) they are saying over $100 billion in new investments in the near term.
Think about that.
Think about that.
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Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:17 am to notiger1997
Ahh, gotcha. Plants don't really require as many hands as an actual oilfield would. I don't think it would be all that big of a change honestly. There's a lot of welders, pipefitters, etc. that are out of work. It's also a lot of union work.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:19 am to RedRifle
quote:NO
Will demographics doom the state's potential oil and gas economic boom?
The composition or make up of the state´s demographics will indeed, however.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:19 am to RedRifle
Your observations are astute.
The demographic time bomb isn't just in Louisiana, though.
The demographic time bomb isn't just in Louisiana, though.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:30 am to notiger1997
quote:I blame this on Bobby Jindal. He knows we have a shortage of workers, yet still brings multi-billion dollar corporations into the state. Why would he do such a ghastly thing?
From Baton Rouge west down toward Corpas Christie(sp) they are saying over $100 billion in new investments in the near term.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:30 am to RedRifle
They are not coming from Lakeside Mall. The state is filled with able bodied workers willing to get paid.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:51 am to RedRifle
I have worked in the Oil & Gas industry for 20 yrs, true.. we haven't seen the amount of work scheduled the next 3-7 yrs (most notably-Sasol), but the workers have always come. The problem wont be the workers, but the housing. Man camps are being planned by Sasol to house a certain % of the labor.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 11:55 am to RedRifle
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We can't import them all.
Yes you can. Just look at North Dakota!
Posted on 4/24/14 at 12:06 pm to Hammertime
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I blame this on Bobby Jindal. He knows we have a shortage of workers, yet still brings multi-billion dollar corporations into the state. Why would he do such a ghastly thing?
Not sure what joke I'm missing, but it's cheap natural gas and the shale boom that is causing most of this investment activity.
My remark was that people have been screaming for quite some time to get some better private/public partnerships in place to help with replacing an aging skilled workforce. This was going to be a problem already, now with this crazy arse spike in activity, things just got worse with the shortage.
They will get their people down here to do the work, it's going to come at a price though.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:03 pm to notiger1997
This problem stems from one source: high school guidance councelors and educators. High Schools approach college as if it is the only possible path for students to succeed. However, we, as a country, are desperate for skilled labor. Our educators often look down on working with one's hands to make a living, and they do not promote trade schools as a viable option for post-secondary education. If guidance councilors and high school administrators would do a better job of promoting trades, this wouldn't be nearly as much of an issue.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:16 pm to kingbob
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kingbob
Agree with everything you typed. Thank goodness this outlook is changing. It's ashame it took so long.
I talked to a business owner recently who told me about a partnership he and 6 other companies are involved in where they privately funded and built their own $18 million training facility to teach several skills. They are working with 12 different high schools in their area who send kids to them 2 hours a day, five days a week. Classes are taught by retired industry people who also kind of take on a roll as a mentor to many of the kids.
The great thing about it is they are earning credits toward a certification with a trade council or something with the local community college while they are learning.
In this market, these kids are getting great paying jobs immediatly upon graduation.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:24 pm to notiger1997
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The great thing about it is they are earning credits toward a certification with a trade council or something with the local community college while they are learning.
In this market, these kids are getting great paying jobs immediatly upon graduation.
Where is this!? That would be a great program for Ascension Parish! I'd love to see the plan so I could pitch a similar approach to the APSB and local plants and contractors.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:29 pm to Hammertime
hammertime nailed it
I live in Texas and every Mexican ive ever hired is the hardest working guy ive seen.
I live in Texas and every Mexican ive ever hired is the hardest working guy ive seen.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:41 pm to RedRifle
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Just strolling through Lakeside mall or watching the news you can tell we have a demographic timebomb. Where are the needed skilled workers (non bachelors degree) going to come from? We can't import them all. Or maybe we will. I think this is the Achilles heal that no one seems to be talking about.
So, in a state of over 3 million people, in which the majority of people don't go to College, you're worried about finding positions that require no College degree?
I'm much more worried about where the "educated and qualified" are going to come from.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:51 pm to RedRifle
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I think this is the Achilles heal that no one seems to be talking about.
the issue has the attention of the state's labor dept (the workforce commission) as well as BESE, the Superintendent, & LCTCS, and it isn't news to any of them. it does take time to train many of the craft workers, and we'll have to increase the number being trained at a time. we will have to import some as well.
but wages for (especially experienced) craft workers will have to rise, making both importing them & training more of them realistic. it'll work out.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 1:59 pm to titmouse
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So, in a state of over 3 million people, in which the majority of people don't go to College, you're worried about finding positions that require no College degree?
I'm much more worried about where the "educated and qualified" are going to come from.
In order to work these jobs, you must be physically able (i.e. in decent physical shape), qualified (certified in your trade, a quality the Louisiana workforce really lacks in the necessary numbers), and the ability to pass a drug test. You would be shocked at how many actually fit 1 and 2, but not 3. I've heard from many contractors over the last 4 years, especially electricians, that if you can show up on time every day and pass a drug test, you've got a job as a helper making $15-$20/hr and can be on your way to getting certified if you choose at the company's expense.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:03 pm to kingbob
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Where is this!?
It's in south Texas.
I've heard of a few instances in our state with companies and the state doing some stuff, but nothing as aggressive and smart as this.
Delgado CC has a small program.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 2:07 pm to notiger1997
Is there any way you could send the details to a private email? bryndenblackfish@yahoo.com
River Parishes Community College is expanding into a huge space that they're not entirely sure what to do with and local industry is parched for workers. I bet a partnership between LCA, LCIA, APSB, RPCC, CIAC, and LSU's college of engineering could make this a reality in Louisiana.
River Parishes Community College is expanding into a huge space that they're not entirely sure what to do with and local industry is parched for workers. I bet a partnership between LCA, LCIA, APSB, RPCC, CIAC, and LSU's college of engineering could make this a reality in Louisiana.
Posted on 4/24/14 at 6:27 pm to RedRifle
This is a stupid question. Did demographics doom the states haynesville shale boom? No. Where are all the workers in North Dakota from? Not North Dakota, that's for sure
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