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Do you think some people's environment dooms them to fail?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:26 pm
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:26 pm
I know back in the early 90s/late 80s urban neighborhoods were at their worst. Really high violence, but maybe that wouldn't have been the case if the government hadn't allowed so many gun and liquor stores to be in these concentrated areas of poverty. Racial profiling was still really prevalent. The question is, do you think there is equal opportunity to succeed in America for everyone today? Does the upper-middle class white kid in the suburbs have the same chance at becoming the CEO of a major corporation as a kid growing up on the south side of Chicago? Or do you think there is still a lot more for impoverished youths to overcome even with the scholarships and grants that are only available to them?
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to 337Tiger19
Did you really just post this on the O-T? These mental midgets are going to turn this into a shite show.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to 337Tiger19
In.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to 337Tiger19
I don't think they are "doomed", but the odds are certainly stacked against them.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to 337Tiger19
You really need a message board to answer this question?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to 337Tiger19
I have a feeling that someone just read a Charles Murray book.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:28 pm to 337Tiger19
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that wouldn't have been the case if the government hadn't allowed so many gun and liquor stores to be in these concentrated areas of poverty.
so, you would prefer the government telling you where you can/can't put your business?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:29 pm to 337Tiger19
The upper-middle class just gets their guns an liquor delivered to their home from Amazon.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:29 pm to 337Tiger19
quote:I've lost count of how many times I've been robbed by a an armed bottle of MadDog.
Really high violence, but maybe that wouldn't have been the case if the government hadn't allowed so many gun and liquor stores to be in these concentrated areas of poverty.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:29 pm to 337Tiger19
There's a reason impoverished youths grow up in those situations. I'm a firm believer that dumb parents make dumb kids
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:30 pm to notiger1997
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Did you really just post this on the O-T? These mental midgets are going to turn this into a shite show.
I love watching this board explode I'm sorry haha.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:30 pm to 337Tiger19
This might be more inline with the Poli Board but being in the military, I've met a lot of successful people that came from very crappy places.
A lot of those Soldiers I worked with grew up in situations that should have had them set up for failure from the get go. They did what they had to do. They got an education, figured out a way to pay for it, worked hard, and earned their way in this life.
It's all about understanding what you want, how to get here, and dedicating the time to make it happen.
A lot of those Soldiers I worked with grew up in situations that should have had them set up for failure from the get go. They did what they had to do. They got an education, figured out a way to pay for it, worked hard, and earned their way in this life.
It's all about understanding what you want, how to get here, and dedicating the time to make it happen.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:30 pm to 337Tiger19
This is kind of a no shite captain obvious type of question. Unequivocally yes, some people's environment dooms them to fail. There are a multitude of ways that this takes effect.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:31 pm to oldcharlie8
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so, you would prefer the government telling you where you can/can't put your business?
Just throwing it out there that there are more of these businesses in your "bad" neighborhoods than there are on the "good" side of town.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:31 pm to 337Tiger19
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This post was edited on 8/8/20 at 11:23 am
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:33 pm to OldSouth
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I've lost count of how many times I've been robbed by a an armed bottle of MadDog.
It's around these businesses that a lot of crime happens. For obvious reasons
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:34 pm to 337Tiger19
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Just throwing it out there that there are more of these businesses in your "bad" neighborhoods than there are on the "good" side of town.
There aren't liquor stores in wealthier neighborhoods?
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:35 pm to 337Tiger19
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Do you think some people's environment dooms them to fail?
No, but it stacks the deck against them.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:35 pm to yellowfin
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There's a reason impoverished youths grow up in those situations. I'm a firm believer that dumb parents make dumb kids
A lot of these families have lived in these areas since before the civil rights era. Some don't get the chance to get out and better themselves because they have to get a job right out of high school to help support their family.
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:35 pm to 337Tiger19
Someone's poor circumstances does make it a lot more challenging for them to succeed. However, there are countless examples of people overcoming their environment to be successful so I do not believe anyone is doomed by virtue of their circumstances. Your life is what you make of it and the ones that figure that out can elevate their station in life. 
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