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re: Rafael Bush missed just one tackle last season...
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:04 pm to BilJ
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:04 pm to BilJ
quote:
why is everyone so mean to you here lester???
it kinda goes like this BigJ
i say something no one agrees with
that something ends up happening or being true
people get mad
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Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:05 pm to THRILLHO
quote:Still less than Vaccaro's 8(not 7 Mr. Lester trying to skew stuff again).
(5 / 514) = (x / 792)
x = 792 * (5/514)
x = 7.7 passes defended
I did it a different way by just multiplying everything by 1.35(the 35% less snaps added in).
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:06 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
it kinda goes like this BigJ
i say something no one agrees with
that something ends up happening or being true
people get mad
And then we make a thread for it. Oh wait...
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:06 pm to bonethug0108
KV had a run stop % of 5.8 which puts him 11th in the NFL
Bush had a run stop % of 2.8 which puts him at 47th
Bush had a run stop % of 2.8 which puts him at 47th
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:07 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
Still less than Vaccaro's 8(not 7 Mr. Lester trying to skew stuff again).
Saw 7 on football-reference.com
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:07 pm to BilJ
Because he doesn't make a million mock drafts.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:08 pm to TigerBait1127
This is a Lester masturbation thread, if there ever was one.
But we should not be involved.
It's a private affair.
But we should not be involved.
It's a private affair.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:08 pm to Sophandros
quote:
It's abundantly clear that he's that petty.
And it's hilarious that he's making up an argument that no one has presented.
funny come from you, of all people
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to Lester Earl
No, Lester.
It goes like this:
There is a discussion. You make your point. Your point is disproven, so you resort to fallacious arguments in order to make your point seem correct. Some of us rightfully get annoyed with that.
It goes like this:
There is a discussion. You make your point. Your point is disproven, so you resort to fallacious arguments in order to make your point seem correct. Some of us rightfully get annoyed with that.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
then why did people laugh at me when i said he played better than vaccaro?
Look, this isn't my pissin contest and I'm not knighting for anyone, but you twist the stats and argue semantics.
So what you are saying is Bush is better than Vacarro. Make that your thread title then.
And if that is what you are saying, thats probably why we were laughing at you. Vacarro is better. All day every day. He brought a toughness to our defense that we were lacking. Now I'm not knocking Bush at all, I wanted us to keep him. I think he hits with intentions. But in my opinion Vacarro is better. So we will have to agree to disagree.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:10 pm to Lester Earl
Breaking down PFF, KV had a much, much better year than Bush and allowed the Saints defense to get off the field.
He gave opposing offenses a lot of negative plays and played out of position due to the corner injuries.
You're taking away from him b/c he got beat in the slot every once in a while despite the fact that Bush never even covered slot receivers
We put him on Vincent Jackson and he got beat, that is going to happen. Bush only did that for 11 snaps all season
He gave opposing offenses a lot of negative plays and played out of position due to the corner injuries.
You're taking away from him b/c he got beat in the slot every once in a while despite the fact that Bush never even covered slot receivers
We put him on Vincent Jackson and he got beat, that is going to happen. Bush only did that for 11 snaps all season
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:12 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Dude. Not cool.
funny come from you, of all people
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:13 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
KV's versatility allows him to play in more favorable matchups...
I think they are equally versatile, it's just that Vaccaro got first crack, and rightfully so.
I think Bush probably surprised them as the games went along, thus his playing time and role increased.
They played on the field a good bit together, so it's difficult to compare their stats head-up since they werent totally in the same roles
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:17 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I think they are equally versatile, it's just that Vaccaro got first crack, and rightfully so.
What are you basing Bush's versatility on? You can think that, but you have nothing to back it up with.
quote:
I think Bush probably surprised them as the games went along, thus his playing time and role increased.
I don't think anyone here would disagree with this. His ability to play safety very well and KV's versatility allowed the Saints to have 2 sure tacklers in the secondary. It was crucial once Greer went down
quote:
They played on the field a good bit together, so it's difficult to compare their stats head-up since they werent totally in the same roles
Because Bush had a defined role and KV was placed all over the field
This post was edited on 4/17/14 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:18 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
I think they are equally versatile, it's just that Vaccaro got first crack, and rightfully so.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:18 pm to Sophandros
quote:
Some of us rightfully get annoyed with that.
you get annoyed because there is always some truth to what i say.
otherwise you wouldn't bother with me. Everything i say is backed up with facts & well thought out opinions.
quote:
Your point is disproven, so you resort to fallacious arguments in order to make your point seem correct.
Right, like when you came into the last thread and told me the same thing when we were talking about our WR production. Just about every measure showed a slip in production(as well as the naked eye, which was obvious), and you still claimed i was spinning shite. lol.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:18 pm to Sophandros
At first I saw he actually started a thread 
Then I saw he was still trying to prove he was right from a previous thread
Then I read he thinks people were laughing at him
And lastly reading all the points contained in said thread he's further away from being right than he was before he started it
Then I saw he was still trying to prove he was right from a previous thread
Then I read he thinks people were laughing at him
And lastly reading all the points contained in said thread he's further away from being right than he was before he started it
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:18 pm to Lester Earl
Trolling Saints Talk with the best of them 
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:19 pm to TigerBait1127
quote:
What are you basing Bush's versatility on? You can think that, but you have nothing to back it up with.
He was good in run support and was an enforcer with the ball in the air.
Posted on 4/17/14 at 1:21 pm to Hoodoo Man
quote:
Dude. Not cool.
Atlantians gonna atlanta
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