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re: Any Braves fans still want to extend Heyward?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:33 pm to The White Lobster
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:33 pm to The White Lobster
Not as bad as Sunday. Just a lot of overreacting.
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:35 pm to volfan30
I wouldnt quit on him yet, he has the ability.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:45 pm to volfan30
quote:Yeah, I'm not sure how the two guys are even comparable. Francouer has consistently been one of the worst players in the league since his breakout.
3 of his 4 seasons have been better than Francouer's career best.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:50 pm to Moustache
You're seriously comparing Jason Heyward to Jeff Francoeur?
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:51 pm to lsusportsman2
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You're seriously comparing Jason Heyward to Jeff Francoeur?
Yea, as an outsider, just dont see that either.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:55 pm to Moustache
Even 2013 Heyward was pretty damn good.
In this era, a corner outfielder who will give you a high-.700s OPS and great fielding is well above-average.
In this era, a corner outfielder who will give you a high-.700s OPS and great fielding is well above-average.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:01 pm to GatorsGators
He is in his 5TH MLB SEASON at 24. Think about that for a bit.
You all rushed him to the Bigs, giving up on him now would be silly.
You all rushed him to the Bigs, giving up on him now would be silly.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:18 pm to GatorsGators
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In this era, a corner outfielder who will give you a high-.700s OPS and great fielding is well above-average.
No doubt. And it was just 2012 when he OPS'd .814 and played the best right field defense in the game.
I don't think that kind of season is his ceiling either. He did that even with a .335 OBP (8.9% walk rate) which is well below anything else he has done in his career. A .900 OPS is well within his reach.
He's hitting in to some tough luck early this year, but a top 5 MVP caliber season anytime now wouldn't really surprise me.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:22 pm to kilo
quote:To be fair, the only one really giving up on him in this thread is OP.
He is in his 5TH MLB SEASON at 24. Think about that for a bit.
You all rushed him to the Bigs, giving up on him now would be silly.
He's going through a little cold spell early in the year, it happens. I'm not worried.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:26 pm to kilo
quote:
He is in his 5TH MLB SEASON at 24. Think about that for a bit.
You all rushed him to the Bigs, giving up on him now would be silly.
I mean, he received MVP votes that season and OPS'd .850. His rookie season was exceptional.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:31 pm to kilo
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He is in his 5TH MLB SEASON at 24. Think about that for a bit.
You all rushed him to the Bigs, giving up on him now would be silly.
I get what you're saying, but he hasn't really improved much since he's been up. There isn't much to point to in terms of development to this point. I think we'll know alot more after this season assuming he stays healthy.
I don't know if you extend him as a franchise player like Miggy or Trout...but I would probably lean towards an extension of some sort.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:41 pm to Moustache
He still has too much potential.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:45 pm to volfan30
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I don't think Heyward is mediocre. He's a top 10 right fielder at worst, argument could be made he's top 5. Was arguably the best RF in the game in 2012.
top 10 probably but top 5 is a stretch.
Beltran
Braun
Cuddyer
Bautista
Stanton
Bruce
Are all ahead offensively anyway.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 12:00 am to JasonMason
Since Heyward came up Bautista and Braun have obviously been better players. But I think Heyward has been better than everybody else on that list overall.
Offense only you can add Werth, Stanton and Beltran as being better for sure. Looking at the numbers Bruce, Cuddyer and Heyward seem pretty close to me offensively in that timeframe.
But Heyward makes up for it defensively as he is clearly the best defender of that group and maybe in all of baseball as a RF.
Offense only you can add Werth, Stanton and Beltran as being better for sure. Looking at the numbers Bruce, Cuddyer and Heyward seem pretty close to me offensively in that timeframe.
But Heyward makes up for it defensively as he is clearly the best defender of that group and maybe in all of baseball as a RF.
This post was edited on 4/9/14 at 12:02 am
Posted on 4/9/14 at 12:03 am to volfan30
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But Heyward makes up for it defensively as he is clearly the best defender of that group and maybe in all of baseball as a RF.
I'd agree here. Only one maybe in the conversation is Bruce.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 4:31 am to Moustache
Haven't you heard, it's only cool to hate on B Upton
Posted on 4/9/14 at 4:57 am to Moustache
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It just seems he is average
Am I missing something? Seems like he would be a perfect match for the braves based on the above...
Posted on 4/9/14 at 6:18 am to Moustache
They were loving the overrated clown a couple years ago
Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:25 am to Mizzoufan26
I'd like to punch you and most of the other Cards fans on here in the balls.
Back in topic...
JHey is a great defensive RF and a streaky hitter. His problems at the plate are hopefully just a cold start. Even if he's just an average hitter (which he's not), ill take him more times than not for his defense.
Back in topic...
JHey is a great defensive RF and a streaky hitter. His problems at the plate are hopefully just a cold start. Even if he's just an average hitter (which he's not), ill take him more times than not for his defense.
Posted on 4/9/14 at 7:26 am to Moustache
He is average.
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