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re: We Are Drafting A WR In The First Round....
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:33 pm to LooseCannon22282
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:33 pm to LooseCannon22282
Both or maybe his angles are so bad it just looks like he doesn't want to tackle. He's out of position a lot. He does have straight line speed though, converting him to an OLB rusher would be interesting because he looks decent blitzing off the edge and up the middle.
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Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:34 pm to Isaid
Would not take him in the first though
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:41 pm to Isaid
yeah, when you read stuff about him it is mentioned he could be used as a 4-3 weakside LB or a 3-4 edge rusher because of his speed.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:47 pm to St Augustine
quote:you really hate Beckham man.
St Augustine
quote:
Sorry I don't want a guy who runs crap routes misjudges deep throws
where did you get that?
quote:
feasted on subpar competiton
that is what you should do.
quote:he really only disappeared in the Bama game. Iowa game Jennings sucked and we played to win on the ground and same thing with Florida, and Arky game he got hurt. in 2012 he torched Bama.
to disappear against the better defenses he faced with a first round pick.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:51 pm to fightingtigers98
Odell prolly fricked his GF
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:52 pm to Isaid
I hear he does such things 
Posted on 4/8/14 at 8:55 pm to Isaid
quote:
He does have straight line speed though
ran a 4.38 40 time at his pro day.
he's 6'3" 230 and Hawthorne is 6'0" 230. Just putting that out there.
people have pointed out the lack of size in some of the LB prospects like Mosley and Shazier. But Hawthorne just isn't all that big either.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:01 pm to LooseCannon22282
What's more sad is Hawthorne doesn't look all that fast either.
I'd love Mosley, and I'd like to have Shazier too. I don't get the hate for him because from everything I've seen he is a baller. Don't get the soft comment at all.
I'd love Mosley, and I'd like to have Shazier too. I don't get the hate for him because from everything I've seen he is a baller. Don't get the soft comment at all.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:16 pm to St Augustine
quote:Funny how NFL gm's and coaches disagree because he's a likely top 20 pick. Your hatred is pathetic.
Get over yourself. Sorry I don't want a guy who runs crap routes misjudges deep throws, and feasted on subpar competiton, to disappear against the better defenses he faced with a first round pick. Matthews and cooks are both more complete receivers.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:18 pm to bonethug0108
Every game Ive seen nothing stands out to make him a good NFL LB. He's misses many tackles, takes horrible angles, and is either out of play via positioning or being knocked into the secondary on a block.Shoulda said not a good player instead of soft.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:26 pm to Isaid
I would love a linebacker that can hold down the spot for years to come and be a force. That or a stud wide receiver. Surely there is value to be had in rounds later than one, but that first pick I hope is a home run...
So many options this year and it's really exciting. Seems like it will be another best player available situation instead of drafting for need. This could be a great draft for us.
So many options this year and it's really exciting. Seems like it will be another best player available situation instead of drafting for need. This could be a great draft for us.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:30 pm to Isaid
I'll give you that I have only seen highlights and those are made to make players look good so I didn't see the misses and bad angles.
But from what did see he is definitely a beast when he is playing well.
But from what did see he is definitely a beast when he is playing well.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 9:34 pm to Meateye
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:22 pm to John McClane
Draftbreakdown.com--> Shazier vs. Penn State
haha 10 seconds in he gets pancaked
Really good website though
haha 10 seconds in he gets pancaked
Really good website though
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:32 pm to Mshargois3
We should go for CB first round, then WR second round.
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:40 pm to Isaid
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:40 pm to Isaid
Do tell
Posted on 4/8/14 at 10:50 pm to bonethug0108
quote:
What's more sad is Hawthorne doesn't look all that fast either.
maybe he is better suited to play in a 4-3?
I mean that is what he played in Seattle.
But now, he's an undersized LB playing inside LB in a 3-4.
sort of reminds of Aubrayo Franklin a few years ago. He was a good NT for the 49ers in a 3-4 defense but then sort of seemed like an odd fit when he got here. I guess the Saints ran some 3-4 looks then but not all the time. I don't remember people being down on him but he didn't stay here long. I guess he only had a 1 year deal or something.
This post was edited on 4/8/14 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 4/8/14 at 11:07 pm to Isaid
quote:Yeah he had some bad plays in there but he also had some good ones.
Draftbreakdown.com--> Shazier vs. Penn State
haha 10 seconds in he gets pancaked
Really good website though
He definitely struggles at times taking on guards in the run game, but he is decent in coverage(which for us means he is lock down level as far as LBs go
) and a pretty good blitzer. It seemed he was often playing zone which doesn't seem to suit him. I think if you play him in man and have him attack more that would play to his strengths.
He's much better coming down hill against the run and blitzing. He shoots gaps a lot better that way.
He seems to have the speed to cover in man, but sometimes gets lost in space in zone.
And that obviously wasn't his best game.
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