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re: The ultimate starting lineup with options?
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:53 pm to BayouBengal6884
Posted on 4/4/14 at 1:53 pm to BayouBengal6884
C - Ivan Rodriguez
1B - Stan Musial
2B - Ryne Sandberg
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Alex Rodriguez
LF - Ted Williams
CF - Willie Mays
RF - Hank Aaron
DH - Barry Bonds
Utility - Pete Rose
RHP - Pedro Martinez
LHP - Randy Johnson
Set Up - Dennis Eckersley
C - Mariano Rivera
1B - Stan Musial
2B - Ryne Sandberg
3B - Mike Schmidt
SS - Alex Rodriguez
LF - Ted Williams
CF - Willie Mays
RF - Hank Aaron
DH - Barry Bonds
Utility - Pete Rose
RHP - Pedro Martinez
LHP - Randy Johnson
Set Up - Dennis Eckersley
C - Mariano Rivera
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Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:08 pm to Stogie
quote:
Set Up - Dennis Eckersley
When was he a Set up guy?
He started in Boston, Chicago, and Cleveland but then he came back in Oakland and St Louis as a Closer.
But if Eck is your set up guy, why do you want a guy that throws a cutter and slider setting up your closer who throws a cutter?
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:10 pm to sms151t
quote:
But if Eck is your set up guy, why do you want a guy that throws a cutter and slider setting up your closer who throws a cutter?
Dude, it's the "ultimate lineup"
Anyways, I'll take my chances with the 2 greatest closers in the history of baseball pitching the 8th & 9th
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:13 pm to Moustache
quote:
2B- Dustin Pedroia
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:13 pm to Stogie
I would not mind that either, but was just asking why you would set it that way. I would switch it around, as you can let Rivera go 2 innings and then get Eck in the 9th. That way your starter only had to go 6 and possibly through a line up 2.5 times.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:14 pm to 1ranter1
Eckersley and Rivera are the 2 best relievers/closers of all time...thats why
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:17 pm to BayouBengal6884
quote:
Eckersley and Rivera are the 2 best relievers/closers of all time...thats why
Debatable
Sutter
Smith
Smoltz
Willhelm
Gossage
All of these guys and more have arguments to be considered the best.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:19 pm to sms151t
2B Hornsby
DH Williams
LF Bonds
RF Ruth
CF Mays
1B Gehrig
SS Wagner
3B Schmidt
C Bench
RHP Clemens
LHP Johnson
RHP Maddux
RHP Pedro
DH Williams
LF Bonds
RF Ruth
CF Mays
1B Gehrig
SS Wagner
3B Schmidt
C Bench
RHP Clemens
LHP Johnson
RHP Maddux
RHP Pedro
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:21 pm to sms151t
then debate it...if it is debatable then as to who is the best
lets hear your arguments..im just curious
lets hear your arguments..im just curious
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:21 pm to sms151t
Look at it this way...when someone asks you "Who are the two greatest closers of all time?"
The first two that come to the top of my head are Eckersley and Rivera.
The only other two that would come to mind would be Hoffman and Smith, but that's after thinking of Eck & Rivera
The first two that come to the top of my head are Eckersley and Rivera.
The only other two that would come to mind would be Hoffman and Smith, but that's after thinking of Eck & Rivera
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 2:22 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:28 pm to sms151t
Lee Smith--Better stuff nastier and played on teams like the Cubs and Cardinals where he didnt get as many opportunities
Sutter--Was considered the ultimate closer pitched more than 1 inning came up with Splitter arm troubles derailed career.
Smoltz--If was a closer entire career would have as many saves as Rivera and Eck. He and Eck are the only 2 men in baseball history to have 20 and 50 seasons. Had more than one pitch and played big in big situations.
Willhelm--HOF pitched multiple innings and was considered first true closer/reliever
Gossage--Same as Willhelm and was nastier than Eck and the Yankees won multiple championships due to his role after coming over from Chicago.
Best closer of all time to me is Lee Smith. He was intimidating, threw hard and was just incredible. I am not discounting Eck or Rivera but they are not head and shoulders above everyone else, like people claim.
Sutter--Was considered the ultimate closer pitched more than 1 inning came up with Splitter arm troubles derailed career.
Smoltz--If was a closer entire career would have as many saves as Rivera and Eck. He and Eck are the only 2 men in baseball history to have 20 and 50 seasons. Had more than one pitch and played big in big situations.
Willhelm--HOF pitched multiple innings and was considered first true closer/reliever
Gossage--Same as Willhelm and was nastier than Eck and the Yankees won multiple championships due to his role after coming over from Chicago.
Best closer of all time to me is Lee Smith. He was intimidating, threw hard and was just incredible. I am not discounting Eck or Rivera but they are not head and shoulders above everyone else, like people claim.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:37 pm to sms151t
IMHO only Hoffman and Rollie Fingers who won a Cy Young, MVP, and World Series in 1 season i believe 1981?? I'd have to look it up
Rivera was nearly unhittable and rarely allowed baserunners
Eck had more saves than baserunners as a closer, thats impressive
Rivera was nearly unhittable and rarely allowed baserunners
Eck had more saves than baserunners as a closer, thats impressive
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:43 pm to BayouBengal6884
Fingers did not win a WS after he left the A's so it wasnt 81.
In 82 he was traded to the Brewers from San Diego(?) part of the Brewers, Cardinals, Padres trade.
Cards had Sutter and Brewers had Fingers as closers in 82.
It was because of David Greene being hurt that the Cards kept Willie and did not trade him. Greene was suppossed to be the next great Cardinal OF.
In 82 he was traded to the Brewers from San Diego(?) part of the Brewers, Cardinals, Padres trade.
Cards had Sutter and Brewers had Fingers as closers in 82.
It was because of David Greene being hurt that the Cards kept Willie and did not trade him. Greene was suppossed to be the next great Cardinal OF.
This post was edited on 4/4/14 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:49 pm to sms151t
sorry no World Series that year, but he did win the Cy Young and MVP in 1981...find another guy who did that
#1 Rivera
#2 Eckersley
#3t Hoffman/Fingers
#5 Sutter
#6 Smith
#1 Rivera
#2 Eckersley
#3t Hoffman/Fingers
#5 Sutter
#6 Smith
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:51 pm to Jcorye1
quote:
XANDER PAIN TRAIN!
Xander won't be at shortstop for long.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:53 pm to 1ranter1
quote:
1ranter1
I was listing my roster of players today. Name a better 2B today.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 2:54 pm to BayouBengal6884
In same year? Nobody.
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:01 pm to sms151t
quote:
Best closer of all time to me is Lee Smith. He was intimidating, threw hard and was just incredible. I am not discounting Eck or Rivera but they are not head and shoulders above everyone else, like people claim.
:rotflmao:
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:01 pm to sms151t
2002-2004 Eric Gagne>All
Posted on 4/4/14 at 3:11 pm to Moustache
quote:
I was listing my roster of players today. Name a better 2B today.
If you think Pedroia is better than Cano all I can do is laugh at you
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