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re: The Official Comic Book Hero Tournament Round II (Winners 3rd Post Pg.1)

Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:49 pm to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:49 pm to
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If the scarab has all that power and the life of the host is irrelevant, why go through the trouble of having a host in the first place?
If Jean can actually kill Reyes while he is in his suit, that is the only way she would win.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:50 pm to
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I don't think that is much of a contest.

Supe's heat vision takes care of his constructs along with his strength.

Iceman can't freeze the air like he did against Wolverine and I doubt he could successfully encase Superman in ice and hold him there.


Couldn't Iceman freeze out the sun (assuming he figures out that's where Superman draws his powers) in some capacity...it might be suicide...but when push comes to shove

We never addressed possible suicide scenarios now that I think about it.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:51 pm to
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Jean Grey's mastery of her telekinetic abilities rivals Magneto's mastery of magnetism.

That's without Phoenix.

But I've never sceen her use it to the extremes that Magneto does his power.

And plus it would take a crap load of force to tear the scarab apart.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Plus I'm assuming her first move would be to read his mind. The second that happens the Scarab takes over and blasts her before she knows what happened. I have never known Grey to crush someone into a block the moment she encounters a threat. Heck, I've never known her to do that while in combat


First thing she would do is put up a telekinetic shield.

And there's no reason to read Reyes' mind if this is a straight combat situation. Why would she care what he's thinking? She would immediately move to incapacitate.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Couldn't Iceman freeze out the sun (assuming he figures out that's where Superman draws his powers) in some capacity...it might be suicide...but when push comes to shove


Even if he did block out the sun after figuring that out, it doesn't drain his powers immediately. He would have plenty of time to either escape or beat Iceman, IMO.
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We never addressed possible suicide scenarios now that I think about it.
Elaborate.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:53 pm to
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But I've never sceen her use it to the extremes that Magneto does his power


If this is a live or die situation she will pull out all of the stops.
Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:53 pm to
Match #1
place #2: Green Latern (Hal Jordan)
Match #2
place #2: Ms. Marvel
Match #3
place #1: Captain America
Match #4
place #2: Jean Grey
Match #5
place #2: Wonder Woman
Match #6
place #1: Hellboy
Match #7
place #1: Hulk (Planet Hulk)
Match #8
place #2: Thor
Match #9
place #1: Flash (Barry Allen)
Match #10
place #1: Superman
Match #11
place #1: Cyclops
Match #12
place #1: Firestorm
Match #13
place #1: Black Bolt
Match #14
place #2: Power Girl
Match #15
place #1: Zatana
Match #16
place #2: Ghost Rider

This post was edited on 3/28/14 at 6:32 am
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:53 pm to
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If Jean can actually kill Reyes while he is in his suit, that is the only way she would win.

Jean doesn't go around killing people.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:54 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51035 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:54 pm to
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If Jean can actually kill Reyes while he is in his suit, that is the only way she would win.


She could easily do this.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Jean doesn't go around killing people.


She also wouldn't be involved in this tournament unless she was forced. Obviously the nature of many of these heroes is thrown out the window in this situation.

Desperate times call for desperate measures.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:55 pm
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:54 pm to
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But I've never sceen her use it to the extremes that Magneto does his power.

And plus it would take a crap load of force to tear the scarab apart.


Yeah, I kind of agree with this.

I just think The Bettle would blast her before it came to all of this.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:55 pm to
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She could easily do this.

But she doesn't do that. That isn't her nature
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51035 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:55 pm to
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But she doesn't do that. That isn't her nature


Once again, it's also not in her nature to be involved in life or death mega-tournaments unless she's forced. In this situation she will do what she has to do.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72282 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:55 pm to
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The Bettle
Why the hell do you keep calling him The Bettle?
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:56 pm to
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But I'm pretty sure Black Bolts nuclear level sonic screams can deflect or shatter a bulle


Not to the back of the head


Posted by Murray
Member since Aug 2008
14435 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
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But I've never sceen her use it to the extremes that Magneto does his power.


I've read pretty much every one of her appearances. I know she's known for her short and infamous stint as the Phoenix but about 90% of her history was spent as Jean Grey aka the badass bitch that won't accept a codename(technically she was Marvel Girl for a good bit but whatever..)

ETA:

I agree with everything fatkid is saying.



ETA 2:

About Jean Grey. NOT Cyclops!

This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
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She also wouldn't be involved in this tournament unless she was forced. Obviously the nature of many of these heroes is thrown out the window in this situation.

True, but I think her first course of action would be to incapacitate the opponent. Which would only make the scarab take control and incapacitate her before she can up the stakes.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
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Why the hell do you keep calling him The Bettle?




I honestly don't know.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57465 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:57 pm to
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Elaborate.


I imagine a scenario where two similarly powered beings fight, but both share the same fatal flaw. To kill one is to kill the other...and in a last desperation attempt - one would do so.

Hypothetically, let's say the Flash goes full power, then all bets are off. Everyone dies.

Flash wins
And Flash loses
Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:58 pm to
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