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re: The Official Comic Book Hero Tournament Round II (Winners 3rd Post Pg.1)

Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:28 pm to
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:28 pm to
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gun that shoots goop to cover Deadbolt's mouth?? Which means he had time to prepare.



I didn't say goop, I believe a bullet would do just fine!
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72303 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:28 pm to
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I haven't heard much about this match up. So to beat black bolt you shoot his mouth? This is just an automatic that deadpool would be able to do. Lot of assumptions on deadpools part. Pretty much the exact same thing happened last round with him
Although I support Deadpool beating Storm, this situation vs Black Bolt is a much more daunting task. Also, it is very similar to Wolverine vs Iceman. Deadpool's regeneration only goes so far.

Even if he did survive Black Bolt's voice, it would take such a long time for him to regenerate that the fight is basically over.

Also, Black Bolt has the ability to generate a force field. That largely nullifies a lot of Deadpool's attacks, including his "goop gun".
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:29 pm to
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If Jean Grey loses to the Blue Beetle I will lose all faith in humanity.


Explain how Jean Grey beat the Scarab?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72303 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:29 pm to
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I've already addressed it. Jean Grey only has one power that would be effective against him since she isn't Pheonix, and that is Telekinesis
Mental assault wouldn't work against him?
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:30 pm to
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I didn't say goop, I believe a bullet would do just fine!

He'd still have to know to aim at his mouth
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57470 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Although I support Deadpool beating Storm, this situation vs Black Bolt is a much more daunting task. Also, it is very similar to Wolverine vs Iceman. Deadpool's regeneration only goes so far.

Even if he did survive Black Bolt's voice, it would take such a long time for him to regenerate that the fight is basically over.

Also, Black Bolt has the ability to generate a force field. That largely nullifies a lot of Deadpool's attacks, including his "goop gun".


I'm cool with that. I am sticking with Deadpool just to tick off the Batman fanboys though
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:30 pm to
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Mental assault wouldn't work against him?

Nope, the scarab would take control the second his mind was altered
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Although I support Deadpool beating Storm, this situation vs Black Bolt is a much more daunting task. Also, it is very similar to Wolverine vs Iceman. Deadpool's regeneration only goes so far.

Even if he did survive Black Bolt's voice, it would take such a long time for him to regenerate that the fight is basically over.

Also, Black Bolt has the ability to generate a force field. That largely nullifies a lot of Deadpool's attacks, including his "goop gun"


All very fair points, and I absolutely understand what you are saying.

The thing we all need to understand is this is a debate. Instead of complaining, make a point. Provide some stats or evidence to prove your point.

Posted by Scrowe
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
2926 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:31 pm to
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Round II Bracket

Match #1
place #1: Iron-Man
place #2: Green Latern (Hal Jordan)
Match #2
place #1: Ms. Marvel
place #2: Captain Atom
Match #3
place #1: Captain America
place #2: Spider-Man
Match #4
place #1: Blue Bettle (Jamie Reyes)
place #2: Jean Grey
Match #5
place #1: Cable
place #2: Wonder Woman
Match #6
place #1: Hellboy
place #2: Psylocke
Match #7
place #1: Hulk (Planet Hulk)
place #2: Vamirella
Match #8
place #1: Dr. Strange
place #2: Thor
Match #9
place #1: Flash (Barry Allen)
place #2: Dr. Fate
Match #10
place #1: Iceman (shitty draw, wish he could have gone farther)
place #2: Superman
Match #11
place #1: Cyclops
place #2: Shazam
Match #12
place #1: Firestorm
place #2: Sara Pezzini (Witchblade)
Match #13
place #1: Black Bolt
place #2: Deadpool (The power of being a smart arse doesn't save him from Black Bolt)
Match #14
place #1: Red Tornado
place #2: Power Girl
Match #15
place #1: Zatana
place #2: Raven
Match #16
place #1: Spawn
place #2: Ghost Rider


There were some lopsided match ups in there, but there were a bunch of great match ups as well. 2, 15, & 16 were some that really stood out to me.
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:32 pm to
It seems pretty obvious to me that if Jean Grey didn't have the Phoenix Force or the ability to mess with his mind then Blue Bettle wins this walking away.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
51041 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Explain how an Omega level mutant can beat the Scarab?


Jean Grey could tear the Scarab apart with only her mind. And that's without using the Phoenix Force.

This matchup is truly no matchup at all.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:33 pm
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:33 pm to
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There were some lopsided match ups in there, but there were a bunch of great match ups as well. 2, 15, & 16 were some that really stood out to me.


yeah, I was really tempted to redraw, but I had to be fair!
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57470 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:33 pm to
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It seems pretty obvious to me that if Jean Grey didn't have the Phoenix Force or the ability to mess with his mind then Blue Bettle wins this walking away.


How would he even get close enough to her?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
67245 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:33 pm to
Iron Man
Ms Marvel
Captain America
Jean Grey
Wonder Woman
Hellboy
Hulk
Thor
Flash
Superman
Cyclops
Firestorm
Deadpool
Power Girl
Raven
Ghost Rider
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57470 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:34 pm to
The fan boy in my says Iron Man smokes the Green Lantern.

But I had to be fair.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72303 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:34 pm to
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Nope, the scarab would take control the second his mind was altered
Can Jean Grey kill him with her mind? Can the scarab function without a living host?
quote:

The fan boy in my says Iron Man smokes the Green Lantern.

But I had to be fair.
Yea, that is one of those lopsided battles, IMO.
This post was edited on 3/27/14 at 12:35 pm
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Scarab apart with only her mind.


The Scarab is alien tech. Its A.I. (right?), so not only is it now a human mind, but its also not organic.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15112 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:35 pm to
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Jean Grey could tear the Scarab apart with only her mind. And that's without using the Phoenix Force.

The Pheonix force is what pushed her to Omega level. Here is what her wiki page says about her telekinetic powers: Her telekinetic strength and skill are both of a supremely high power-level, capable of grasping objects in Earth orbit and manipulating hundreds of components in mid-air in complex patterns. She often uses her telekinesis to lift herself and others, giving her the ability of levitation and flight. She uses her telekinesis to create durable shields and energy blasts. She later manifests a "telekinetic sensitivity" (called "the Manifestation of the Phoenix"[42]) to objects in her immediate environment that lets her feel the texture and molecular patterns of objects, feel when other objects come into contact with them, and probe them at a molecular or subatomic level.

Posted by Darkknight
Member since Mar 2012
1415 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:35 pm to
This much is true. Believe me, my votes are subject to change as the debates go on.

Unlike others...(cough deadpool cough)
Posted by bigpetedatiga
Alexandria, LA
Member since Aug 2009
8631 posts
Posted on 3/27/14 at 12:36 pm to
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How would he even get close enough to her?


He has a wide array or weapons, he doesn't need to get close to her. He can blast away.

Okay, maybe she makes a force field right, eventually she is going to tire or he is simply going to break through.
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